I am snipping and including only relevant info from the thread.
Bob,
I've been reading this group first thing every morning of my life for about
15 years. I rarely post, but when I do, I always top-post. I've been chided
for it a few times, ALWAYS only as an extra dig during a difference of
opinion about something else.
People like you need to go to extremes to escalate a fight with someone who
has only good intentions, who is literate and articulate, but who "breaks"
the unspoken rule about top-posting.
I am NOT the only person who prefers to read the NEW info at the top of a
long thread.
My posting was first and I saw it show up here on my server. I posted it
only a minute later in the music newsgroup. That is HOW Ray discovered it,
even if he (and you) missed it in THIS newsgroup.
Maybe this whole thing is a misunderstanding based on Ray's post showing up
as the earlier one on your server. But I still don't see why you view my
posting as a "contradiction" of Ray's.
I do apologize that in my knee-jerk reaction at his reposting it as
"Unconfirmed", I neglected to point out that I was the one who posted the
notice in the first place, which he was now reposting and changing it to
"unconfirmed."
All I saw was someone undermining my post, and I took offense at that.
I now realize he may not have been posting with the intention of merely
changing my notice to "unconfirmed", but that his intention was to post the
death notice after seeing it in the other group, thinking it hadn't been
posted to this group yet, and adding the caveat because he had no
corroborative info.
But I think you're pretty rigid for regarding the Facebook page of the
Brooklyn Bridge's drummer as NOT being proof by this exalted newsgroup's
standards.
Do you know who Dion DiMucci is? Do you think you could find your way to his
Facebook page? Do you think he would post about Fred Ferrara dying if it
weren't true?
Do you find it so hard to type in something other than the name "Fred
Ferrara" when I gave you enough information to confirm my report without
typing his name?
You ask what I don't understand about the top-posting rule and the non-proof
of someone else's Facebook page? I understand it fine, Bob, and unlike you,
I have not resorted to insults and sarcasm in trying to make my points in
this argument.
You had to pick a fight with a well-meaning "stranger" who had given you
PLENTY to work with, to find a link independent of ANYTHING I'd have typed,
so that you could feel that this death was "confirmed" without my
interference. And to this SINCERE comment that I made before, your reply
here was, "Spare me."
And by the time your post to which I am now replying appeared, my posting
with its new subject line called "Confirmation..." containing SEVERAL links,
IS showing up on MY server. Yet, you're still saying that I have not
provided confirmation.
And based on your logic, just about EVERY link I provided could still be
regarded as suspect. I certainly would never use Wikipedia as a definitive
say on anything, and most of the other links are still just things that
other "strangers" posted.
You could even make a point that the info from the funeral home is a hoax.
So where does it end for you, Bob? Even a newspaper sometimes prints news
that is false.
I am a nice, decent person, Bob. I don't deserve to have been put through
inane and insane crap that doesn't matter in life.
This newsgroup has a purpose. I followed that purpose. You are probably one
of less than ten people even following this thread, and I'd assume you have
the intelligence to understand my new info at the top, rather than endlessly
scrolling past things you've read five times already to find it.
The minutiae of usenet etiquette doesn't matter when a posting is EASY to
understand. You made a big deal out of nothing. I didn't post that some
famous person had died, causing a gigantic uproar while someone like you
tried to find confirmation.
I posted about someone whose death you say you STILL can't find when you
type it into Google. So why not have made it easy on us both and been a NICE
person in the process, by believing that this "stranger" might have been on
the level, thinking outside the box and finding confirmation in other ways
than just searching for his name?
The Other Diane
Post by BobFAre you Lou Agiesta? If not then Lou Agiesta's Facebook page IS
someone else's. And something written on someone else's Facebook page
is NOT "proof" by alt.obituaries standards. What don't you understand
about that?
What don't you understand about providing your own confirmation links?
Expecting alt.obituaries to accept the claim of a stranger that a
death is confirmed just because she "heard it on the grapevine" isn't
realistic. And since you are still unwilling to provide that
confirmation I can't see why anyone would accept your word.
The only post we saw was your
contradiction of Ray's original "Unconfirmed" post. Ray followed
protocol. You not only didn't, you didn't even know what it was ...
and that, combined with your top-posting pointed to a Usenet novice.
And it might have helped if you'd actually told us in the beginning
that you'd previously posted in another newsgroup and that Ray's post
was a copy of yours.
In other words, you are still unwilling or unable to provide
confirmation, but still expect everyone to accept your word. How
childish.
BTW - you don't have to be "BIG" for your death to be searchable on
Google. In fact, if it's mentioned anywhere on the Net, a Google
search will find it.