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Thai prince Bhisadej Rajani, 100
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Lenona
2022-07-23 13:04:30 UTC
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I find it hard to believe the photo was taken in 2009!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhisadej_Rajani

Excerpt:

"He graduated from Debsirin School and continued his education at Dulwich College in England where he played rugby, tennis, and squash. Running many races a day, young Prince Bhisadej finally won the Victor Ludorum gold medal (Latin for 'winner of the games') at the annual Thai students in the UK meeting. During World War II, he joined the British Army in 1943 as a soldier and British spy. He was trained to walk up the hills with a rifle and heavy back pack. He trekked the Himalayan Mountains for two weeks with an army from Darjeeling Hill Station in India to Nathula Pass in Tibet. After the army training, he engaged the underground resistance movement activities against Japanese called Free Thai Movement during the War. After the war, he came back to Thailand and worked as an officer in the Border Patrol Police in their schools along the northern Thai border for a few years."


He also married his first cousin and had children.

I wonder how many famous (and educated) people DO that anymore?

(Einstein married his first cousin, but they were both over 40 at the time, did not have children after marrying, and presumably never intended to.)
Louis Epstein
2022-07-24 08:37:26 UTC
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Post by Lenona
I find it hard to believe the photo was taken in 2009!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhisadej_Rajani
"He graduated from Debsirin School and continued his education at Dulwich College in England where he played rugby, tennis, and squash. Running many races a day, young Prince Bhisadej finally won the Victor Ludorum gold medal (Latin for 'winner of the games') at the annual Thai students in the UK meeting. During World War II, he joined the British Army in 1943 as a soldier and British spy. He was trained to walk up the hills with a rifle and heavy back pack. He trekked the Himalayan Mountains for two weeks with an army from Darjeeling Hill Station in India to Nathula Pass in Tibet. After the army training, he engaged the underground resistance movement activities against Japanese called Free Thai Movement during the War. After the war, he came back to Thailand and worked as an officer in the Border Patrol Police in their schools along the northern Thai border for a few years."
He also married his first cousin and had children.
He was a great-grandson of a brother of King Mongkut (Rama IV),
the "King" of "Anna and the King"/"The King and I"...
whose son Chulalongkorn(Rama V) married (among others,but these
were his principal wives) four of his half-sisters (daughters
of Mongkut by wives/concubines other than Chulalongkorn's mother).
All subsequent Kings of Thailand descend from these sibling unions.
Post by Lenona
I wonder how many famous (and educated) people DO that anymore?
I think I was already posting on a.o in April 1995 when the Honourable Alan
Hare died,and noted (to some disbelief from another poster) that his
daughter was married to his nephew,whose death I noted here in 2018.

They had three children:

Bestselling author Cressida Cowell ("How to Train Your Dragon" series);
Artist Emily Faccini (see emilyfaccini.com);
and the 3rd Viscount Blakenham,Caspar John Hare,who is a full
professor of philosophy at MIT who has won awards for his teaching.

Hysteria over inbreeding risks is definitely overblown.
Post by Lenona
(Einstein married his first cousin, but they were both over 40 at the time, did
not have children after marrying, and presumably never intended to.)
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Louis Epstein
2022-07-31 02:15:06 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Lenona
I find it hard to believe the photo was taken in 2009!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhisadej_Rajani
"He graduated from Debsirin School and continued his education at Dulwich College in England where he played rugby, tennis, and squash. Running many races a day, young Prince Bhisadej finally won the Victor Ludorum gold medal (Latin for 'winner of the games') at the annual Thai students in the UK meeting. During World War II, he joined the British Army in 1943 as a soldier and British spy. He was trained to walk up the hills with a rifle and heavy back pack. He trekked the Himalayan Mountains for two weeks with an army from Darjeeling Hill Station in India to Nathula Pass in Tibet. After the army training, he engaged the underground resistance movement activities against Japanese called Free Thai Movement during the War. After the war, he came back to Thailand and worked as an officer in the Border Patrol Police in their schools along the northern Thai border for a few years."
He also married his first cousin and had children.
He was a great-grandson of a brother of King Mongkut (Rama IV),
the "King" of "Anna and the King"/"The King and I"...
whose son Chulalongkorn(Rama V) married (among others,but these
were his principal wives) four of his half-sisters (daughters
of Mongkut by wives/concubines other than Chulalongkorn's mother).
All subsequent Kings of Thailand descend from these sibling unions.
Post by Lenona
I wonder how many famous (and educated) people DO that anymore?
I think I was already posting on a.o in April 1995 when the Honourable Alan
Hare died,and noted (to some disbelief from another poster) that his
daughter was married to his nephew,whose death I noted here in 2018.
[They married in January 1965].
Post by Louis Epstein
Bestselling author Cressida Cowell ("How to Train Your Dragon" series);
Artist Emily Faccini (see emilyfaccini.com);
and the 3rd Viscount Blakenham,Caspar John Hare,who is a full
professor of philosophy at MIT who has won awards for his teaching.
Hysteria over inbreeding risks is definitely overblown.
More recently,I recall news coverage of the massive wedding that
filled Nassau Coliseum (with curtained off sections separating males
from females in attendance) in 1984,when the grand rabbi Moshe Teitelbaum
presided over the union of his eldest son Aaron's eldest son Menachem
Mendel with the daughter of his elder daughter....and in 1998 the
bride's sister married one of her first cousins from another Hasidic
dynasty,with thousands,but fewer thousands,in attendance.
Post by Louis Epstein
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
danny burstein
2022-07-31 02:21:10 UTC
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In <tc4oja$f3m$***@reader2.panix.com> Louis Epstein <***@top.put.com> writes:

[snip]
Post by Louis Epstein
Hysteria over inbreeding risks is definitely overblown.
In one of Robert Heinlein's novels two of his younger
characters were hooking up and... he worked out the
maths involved and agreed with you.

(Don't recall which story...)
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A Friend
2022-07-31 02:39:53 UTC
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Post by danny burstein
[snip]
Post by Louis Epstein
Hysteria over inbreeding risks is definitely overblown.
In one of Robert Heinlein's novels two of his younger
characters were hooking up and... he worked out the
maths involved and agreed with you.
(Don't recall which story...)
"The Tale of the Twins Who Weren't," which is part of Time Enough for
Love.
Louis Epstein
2022-07-31 05:03:17 UTC
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Post by A Friend
Post by danny burstein
[snip]
Post by Louis Epstein
Hysteria over inbreeding risks is definitely overblown.
In one of Robert Heinlein's novels two of his younger
characters were hooking up and... he worked out the
maths involved and agreed with you.
(Don't recall which story...)
"The Tale of the Twins Who Weren't," which is part of Time Enough for
Love.
Well,the narrator (LL) cheats at cards to scare the twins out
of letting their children follow their example...though in
later books is involved with close kin of his own.

(Woodrow Wilson "Lazarus Long" Smith first appears in
"Methuselah's Children",which both calculates his present
age as of the year 2125 and refers to 2125 as eleven years
before...I don't know how long it will actually take for
the oldest living person to be born in November 1912 (as
later specifically established for LL) or for the second
oldest person to be born about 30 years after that (Mary
Sperling),but this year we went from January 1903 to
February 1904 as birth of the oldest...certainly there are
living people already who will see 2125).

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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