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JACK THE RIPPER: revealed to be...Robert Mann, killed 7 women (not 5)
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"New Jack the Ripper suspect was mortuary attendant who killed two more
women"

By Graham Smith
Last updated at 6:36 PM on 05th October 2009


An historian claims to have uncovered the identity of Jack the Ripper by
using modern police forensic techniques.

Mei Trow also believes that the notorious Whitechapel murderer was
responsible for the deaths of an additional two women.

He has concluded that Robert Mann, a local morgue attendant, was the killer
who terrorised east London in 1888 and who was officially credited with
dismembering five prostitutes.

Mr Trow's theory is based on two years of intensive research during which he
used forensic techniques including psychological and geographical profiling.

The beginnings of Mr Trow's investigation are rooted in 1988, when a US
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) examination of the Ripper case worked
up a comprehensive criminal personality profile using standard agency
procedures.

The FBI profile of the Ripper concluded that the killer was a white male
from the lower social classes, was probably from a broken home, had a menial
job such as a butcher or medical examiner's assistant, and because of
prolonged periods without human interaction, was socially inept.

Mr Trow said: 'I wanted to go beyond the myth of a caped man with a top hat
and knife, and get to the reality, and the reality is simply that Jack was
an ordinary man.'

He also believes that Martha Tabram, found with 39 stab wounds to her body
in Gunthorpe Street, was the first Ripper victims, and that Alice Mackenzie,
brutally murdered eight months after the confirmed five killings, was his
last.

The two women, along with confirmed victims, would have been delivered to
the Whitechapel mortuary in which Mann worked.

After the killing of Polly Nichols, the Ripper's first official victim, Mann
unlocked the mortuary for the police so they could examine the body and as
such, was called as a witness in her inquest to help establish the cause of
death.

Most damningly, he undressed Polly's body with his assistant, despite being
under strict instructions from police to not touch the body. Mr Trow
suspects this was an opportunity for Mann to admire his handiwork.

The coroner, in his summation of Mann's testimony concluded that, 'It
appears the mortuary keeper is subject to fits, and neither his memory nor
statements are reliable.'

A local of impoverished Whitechapel, Mann was from an extremely deprived
background, his father having been absent for much of his upbringing.

In addition, he tasted the ultimate Victorian humiliation of being an inmate
in the workhouse, which all citizens regarded as a hellish place to where
the lowest strata of society who were unable to support themselves were
relegated.

Professor Laurence Alison, forensic psychologist at Liverpool University,
said: 'In terms of psychological profiling, Robert Mann is the one of the
most credible suspects from recent years and the closest we may ever get to
a plausible psychological explanation for these most infamous of Victorian
murders.'

Mr Trow's theory forms the basis of the documentary Jack the Ripper: Killer
Revealed, which airs on Discovery Channel this Sunday and in the Jack the
Ripper: Quest for a Killer.


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Commenters:

"Let's see now: This marks the fourth, fifth or is it sixth, positive
identification of Jack the Ripper. I lean toward [artist Walter] Sickert."
- bill young, brownsville, texas, usa, 06/10/2009 17:44


"... a white male from the lower social classes, probably from a broken
home, had a menial job and was socially inept? I think that describes 80% of
the population of London at the time. "
- george, new brighton, 5/10/2009 19:14

"That also describes a high percentage of the UK population today!"
- Paul Kersey, Londinium, 5/10/2009 15:43


"I did it............."
- Jack, London, 5/10/2009 15:33


"How accurate could a 20th Century American profile a 19th Century
Englishman? Just sayin' "
- Katherine Therese, Lansing, Michigan, US, 5/10/2009 15:27


"OJ did it."
- Olden Atwoody, Eaton, UK, 5/10/2009 13:23


"An historian claims to have uncovered the identity of Jack the Ripper by
using modern police forensic techniques.

And using modern methods of punishment I suppose he got probation"
- George Haley, Bad Homburg Germany, 5/10/2009 11:54
BobF
16 years ago
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"New Jack the Ripper suspect was mortuary attendant who killed two more
women"
The village idiot strikes again:

Why didn't idiot boy read the article before providing a misleading
subject?

After all, he's been reading and comprehending large words since he
was four.

--

"What age did you first start reading the morning newspaper
and comprehending large words, SEVEN? Beat you by at least three years;
and an aunt of mine told me it was *before* I was yet FOUR! Meow!"

- From "The Sayings of Roy"
islanders
16 years ago
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Post by BobF
Why didn't idiot boy read the article before providing a misleading
subject?
After all, he's been reading and comprehending large words since he
was four.
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Bob, be fair. Nowhere in this post does roy mention Pujlos or the
Cardinals. Can you imagine how hard (or in roy's case soft) that was?
BobF
16 years ago
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[Default] On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT), islanders
Post by islanders
Post by BobF
Why didn't idiot boy read the article before providing a misleading
subject?
After all, he's been reading and comprehending large words since he
was four.
--
Bob, be fair. Nowhere in this post does roy mention Pujlos or the
Cardinals. Can you imagine how hard (or in roy's case soft) that was?
True ... and he didn't mention Ron Paul or quote Mencken either. But
just as Roy doesn't do subtle, I don't do fair ...

--

"BTW, there are many lurkers who will agree with me."

- From "The Sayings of Roy"
R H Draney
16 years ago
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I still think the Bush administration is somehow to blame....r
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An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
Magnus
16 years ago
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218295/New-Jack-Ripper-suspe...
"New Jack the Ripper suspect was mortuary attendant who killed two more
women"
As someone who has a passing interest in the Ripper case, I'd like to
say thanks for passing along this article. I'm not a Ripperologist,
and so the name of Robert Mann is new to me. He certainly seems to be
a more likely candidate than most who have been suggested, including
writer Patricia Cornwell's theory that the killer was an artist.

Thanks again,

Magnus
marcus
16 years ago
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...
I'd like to pass along a new book of fiction that might interest some
of you reading this thread, "Vengeance of The Ripper" by Steven
Leshin.

You can find it at:

http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/vengeance-of-the-ripper/5250442


http://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Ripper-Steven-M-Leshin/dp/0557052963
Louis Epstein
16 years ago
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Magnus <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
: On Oct 7, 5:41?pm, "A" <***@att.net> wrote:
:>
:> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218295/New-Jack-Ripper-suspe...
:>
:> "New Jack the Ripper suspect was mortuary attendant who killed two more
:> women"
:>
:
: As someone who has a passing interest in the Ripper case, I'd like to
: say thanks for passing along this article. I'm not a Ripperologist,
: and so the name of Robert Mann is new to me. He certainly seems to be
: a more likely candidate than most who have been suggested, including
: writer Patricia Cornwell's theory that the killer was an artist.

What about Druitt and Kosminski?

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