Peter Yarrow, 86, of Peter, Paul and Mary

[bryan_styble]

With the late Yarrow's demise today in New York City, the celebrated
folksinging trio is now down to "Paul and".

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Yarrow

[J.D. Baldwin]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/17/peter-yarrow-carter-pardon-assault/

A famed folk singer won a presidential pardon after molesting a
child. Did he prey on others?

May 17, 2021
By Gillian Brockell

No one from the government notified Barbara Winter about the
pardon. Not the White House, not the Justice Department’s Office
of the Pardon Attorney, not the prosecutor who handled her case.

She found out from her mother, who read in the newspaper that one
of the country’s most famous folk singers, who had admitted to and
been convicted of molesting her when she was barely 14, had been
pardoned by President Jimmy Carter on his final full day in office
in 1981.

It felt, Winter says now, “like you got sucker-punched in the gut.
It’s telling him, ‘It’s okay what you did, just don’t get caught
next time,’ if that makes sense.”

[...]

But this pardon by Carter — perhaps the only one in U.S. history
wiping away a conviction for a sexual offense against a child —
escaped scrutiny when it happened. It was granted just hours
before the American hostages in Iran were freed, which captured
headlines for weeks.

The Washington Post didn’t write about the pardon until Feb. 7,
1981. Even then, it was buried in the back of the Metro section,
and only seemed notable because of who the recipient was: renowned
folk singer Peter Yarrow of the group Peter, Paul and Mary, who
co-wrote the beloved children’s song, “Puff the Magic Dragon.”

While Winter, now 66, has lived with the aftermath of the 1969
incident for decades, Yarrow’s crime was mostly forgotten after he
served less than three months in jail.

Then, 40 years after Carter’s pardon, another woman stepped
forward with an accusation of her own. In a lawsuit filed in New
York on Feb. 24, 2021, she alleged that Yarrow lured her to a
Manhattan hotel when she was a minor in 1969 and raped her.

[...]

Seems timely for some reason.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by J.D. Baldwin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/17/peter-yarrow-carter-pardon-assault/
. . .
Then, 40 years after Carter's pardon, another woman stepped
forward with an accusation of her own. In a lawsuit filed in New
York on Feb. 24, 2021, she alleged that Yarrow lured her to a
Manhattan hotel when she was a minor in 1969 and raped her.
[...]
Seems timely for some reason.

That the statute of limitations law was changed to allow the other
accuser to file a lawsuit more than 5 decades after the alleged crime
took place is not in the interest of justice. There are valid reasons
for statutes of limitations given the extraordinary difficulty of
defending against the tort so long after the fact.

What was the outcome?

[Jason]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by J.D. Baldwin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/17/peter-yarrow-carter-pardon-assault/
. . .
Then, 40 years after Carter's pardon, another woman stepped
forward with an accusation of her own. In a lawsuit filed in New
York on Feb. 24, 2021, she alleged that Yarrow lured her to a
Manhattan hotel when she was a minor in 1969 and raped her.
[...]
Seems timely for some reason.

That the statute of limitations law was changed to allow the other
accuser to file a lawsuit more than 5 decades after the alleged crime
took place is not in the interest of justice. There are valid reasons
for statutes of limitations given the extraordinary difficulty of
defending against the tort so long after the fact.
What was the outcome?

According to this lengthy article on Rolling Stone's website today, "A
settlement in the case was reached a few months after it was filed."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/peter-yarrow-paul-mary-folk-singer-dead-1235193134/

[J.D. Baldwin]

Post by Adam H. Kerman

Post by J.D. Baldwin
Then, 40 years after Carter's pardon, another woman stepped
forward with an accusation of her own. In a lawsuit filed in New
York on Feb. 24, 2021, she alleged that Yarrow lured her to a
Manhattan hotel when she was a minor in 1969 and raped her.
[...]
Seems timely for some reason.

That the statute of limitations law was changed to allow the other
accuser to file a lawsuit more than 5 decades after the alleged
crime took place is not in the interest of justice. There are valid
reasons for statutes of limitations given the extraordinary
difficulty of defending against the tort so long after the fact.

I 100% agree. NY state did this recently to enable a bullshit lawsuit
against Donald Trump for purely political reasons. This is not a
healthy thing for law, politics or society generally. Statutes of
limitations, as you say, exist for good reason.

I included the graf about the then-new accusation just to underscore
what a scumbag Yarrow was. I don't know that I'd go into a courtroom
with that accusation, but given the proclivities of people who
sexually prey children (as Yarrow unambiguously and unquestionably
did), I find it to be a perfectly credible basis for a personal
conclusion about a) Yarrow's character and b) the propriety of
granting a pardon for such a crime based on the political support of
the perpetrator.

[bryan_styble]

Had been totally oblivious to this aspect of Yarrow's history/ My bad
as the kids say; should have read the Wiki entry in full, thus
appreciate your posting, J.D.

Best one can theorize is that, after all, Yarrow was a pop star, and
starstruck girls have been known to throw themselves at their idols and
come to regret it later and, perhaps, mischaracterize what actually
happened. But yeah, worldly adults who happen to be stars should
understand showing restraint is part of the price they pay for their
stardom, at least with their youngest admirers.

To his credit, the late Yarrow seemed contrite. And it seems an
ironclad rule of life* that no one should ever open a door naked.

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
=================
* With the sole exception, one guesses, of members of nudist camps.

[Louis Epstein]

Post by bryan_styble
Had been totally oblivious to this aspect of Yarrow's history/ My bad
as the kids say; should have read the Wiki entry in full, thus
appreciate your posting, J.D.
Best one can theorize is that, after all, Yarrow was a pop star, and
starstruck girls have been known to throw themselves at their idols and
come to regret it later and, perhaps, mischaracterize what actually
happened. But yeah, worldly adults who happen to be stars should
understand showing restraint is part of the price they pay for their
stardom, at least with their youngest admirers.
To his credit, the late Yarrow seemed contrite. And it seems an
ironclad rule of life* that no one should ever open a door naked.
BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
=================
* With the sole exception, one guesses, of members of nudist camps.

I would say that if one knows the identity of who is outside the door,
and that they would not object,and one treats them with respect,there would
be no bad outcomes.

My only connection to PP&M is that my father briefly dated Mary before
I was born,and he and my mother met her many years later on one or more
occasions that I was not present.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

[Louis Epstein]

Post by J.D. Baldwin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/17/peter-yarrow-carter-pardon-assault/
A famed folk singer won a presidential pardon after molesting a
child. Did he prey on others?
May 17, 2021
By Gillian Brockell
No one from the government notified Barbara Winter about the
pardon. Not the White House, not the Justice Departmentâ??s Office
of the Pardon Attorney, not the prosecutor who handled her case.
She found out from her mother, who read in the newspaper that one
of the countryâ??s most famous folk singers, who had admitted to and
been convicted of molesting her when she was barely 14, had been
pardoned by President Jimmy Carter on his final full day in office
in 1981.
It felt, Winter says now, â??like you got sucker-punched in the gut.
Itâ??s telling him, â??Itâ??s okay what you did, just donâ??t get caught
next time,â?? if that makes sense.â??
[...]
But this pardon by Carter â?? perhaps the only one in U.S. history
wiping away a conviction for a sexual offense against a child â??
escaped scrutiny when it happened. It was granted just hours
before the American hostages in Iran were freed, which captured
headlines for weeks.
The Washington Post didnâ??t write about the pardon until Feb. 7,
1981. Even then, it was buried in the back of the Metro section,
and only seemed notable because of who the recipient was: renowned
folk singer Peter Yarrow of the group Peter, Paul and Mary, who
co-wrote the beloved childrenâ??s song, â??Puff the Magic Dragon.â??
While Winter, now 66, has lived with the aftermath of the 1969
incident for decades, Yarrowâ??s crime was mostly forgotten after he
served less than three months in jail.

His sentence was apparently 1-3 years so why did he get out so early?
(Apparently the conviction broke up the PP&M group for years).

Is it recorded whether the 14-year-old's accompanying 17-year-old sister
made any effort to get her out of there when Yarrow made his prosecutable
demands,rather than letting her comply?

Post by J.D. Baldwin
Then, 40 years after Carterâ??s pardon, another woman stepped
forward with an accusation of her own. In a lawsuit filed in New
York on Feb. 24, 2021, she alleged that Yarrow lured her to a
Manhattan hotel when she was a minor in 1969 and raped her.
[...]
Seems timely for some reason.

For reason of one or both of the deaths,or the conjunction?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.