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LIST: Oldest living major leaguers
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David Carson
2019-08-27 13:03:39 UTC
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This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.

There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.

Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.

1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924

The oldest living hall of famer is TOMMY LASORDA, born 9/22/1927.

The most recent oldest living major leaguers have been:
(*) Val Helm - 8/26/2019 to present - 0 years, 1 day and counting
(*) Tom Jordan - 11/30/2018 to 8/26/2019 - 0 years, 270 days
Fred Caligiuri - 5/28/2018 to 11/30/2018 - 0 years, 186 days
Chuck Stevens - 11/13/2017 to 5/28/2018 - 0 years, 196 days
BOBBY DOERR - 11/4/2016 to 11/13/2017 - 1 year, 9 days
Eddie Carnett - 4/4/2016 to 11/4/2016 - 0 years, 214 days
Mike Sandlock - 4/23/2014 to 4/4/2016 - 1 year, 347 days
Connie Marrero - 2/8/2011 to 4/23/2014 - 3 years, 74 days
(*) Tony Malinosky - 1/22/2009 to 2/8/2011 - 2 years, 17 days
Bill Werber - 7/22/2007 to 1/22/2009 - 1 year, 184 days
Rollie Stiles - 7/15/2006 to 7/22/2007 - 1 year, 7 days
(*) Howdy Groskloss - 7/30/2005 to 7/15/2006 - 350 days
(*) Ray Cunningham - 1/2/2004 to 7/30/2005 - 1 year, 209 days
(*) Paul Hopkins - 9/25/2002 to 1/2/2004 - 1 year, 99 days
Ray Hayworth - 6/27/2002 to 9/25/2002 - 90 days
(*) Ralph Erickson - 4/3/2002 to 6/27/2002 - 85 days
(*) Karl Swanson - 3/31/1999 to 4/3/2002 - 3 years, 3 days
(*) Ike Kahdot - 9/17/1998 to 3/31/1999 - 195 days
Red Hoff - 12/15/1990 to 9/17/1998 - 7 years, 276 days

David Carson
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Louis Epstein
2019-08-27 13:46:42 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Reminiscent of the 1922-23 gap one finds among the oldest
living hereditary peers:

Oct 31 1919 Falmouth V
Sept 22 1920 Saye and Sele B
March 30 1921 Sutherland E
Feb 17 1924 Elgin & Kincardine E
July 17 1924 Monk Bretton B
Sept 21 1924 Ironside B
Feb 21 1925 Walsingham B
Sept 23 1925 Wakehurst B
Feb 18 1926 Northbourne B
March 2 1926 Dickinson B
March 31 1926 Ailesbury M
April 20 1926 Gainford B
May 17 1926 Airlie E
Aug 30 1926 Brain B
Oct 11 1926 Churchill B
Dec 16 1926 Alvingham B
Dec 27 1926 Knutsford V
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Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
The oldest living hall of famer is TOMMY LASORDA, born 9/22/1927.
Who's the oldest All-Star?
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danny burstein
2019-08-27 13:55:57 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Reminiscent of the 1922-23 gap one finds among the oldest
Hmmmm... now what major worldwide even took place starting
in 1939 (England) and the end of 1941 (United States) which
could/would have had a statistically noticable effect on
the male population born in the referenced dates?
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Louis Epstein
2019-08-30 04:21:59 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Reminiscent of the 1922-23 gap one finds among the oldest
Hmmmm... now what major worldwide even took place starting
in 1939 (England) and the end of 1941 (United States) which
could/would have had a statistically noticable effect on
the male population born in the referenced dates?
Can't speak to major leaguers but when it comes to those who would
have succeeded to British hereditary titles,here are those born in
those years who died as a result of that event:



John Cecil Oliver Trench*
(son of a brother older than the father of the 6th Baron Ashtown),
23rd September 1923-22nd October 1942


Norton Cecil Michael Knatchbull,6th Baron Brabourne,**
11th February 1922-15th September 1943



Robert John Ochiltree Stuart,by courtesy Viscount Stuart,second son of the
7th Earl Castle Stewart,***
12th December 1923-17th September 1944
(the two immediately previous were nephews of the two before them)


Robert James Brand,only son of the (later created) 1st(and last) Baron
Brand,16th June 1923-March 1945


Sir Howard Frederick Frank,2nd Baronet,
5th April 1923-September 1944



Sir Chandos Wren Hoskyns,14th Baronet,****
14th December 1923-3rd April 1945


David Gaspard Hunter Blair,younger brother of Sir Edward Thomas Hunter Blair,
8th baronet*****
30th September 1922-May 1942


Hon. David Hugh Joicey,elder son of the 3rd Baron Joicey,
21st April 1922-September 1943


Lord Edward Norman Petty-Fitzmaurice,******
younger brother of the 7th Marquess of Lansdowne and 9th Lord Nairne,28th July
1922-11th August 1944


Gilfrid MacIver Lewthwaite,uncle of Sir David Rainald Lewthwaite,5th
and last Baronet,15th April 1922-22nd July 1943
(title his elder brothers held to 2003 died out with his nephew in 2004)


Alastair Henry Pelham-Clinton,younger brother of the 10th and last
Duke of Newcastle,29th March 1923-24th May 1943


Sir George Peter Vernon Wills,3rd Baronet,
8th January 1922-19th April 1945



(extracted from a file you may recall my posting every November 11...
searching the file results in my discovering the 1922 and 1923 births
were often of people whose entries referenced relatives also killed in
World Wars...)


*nephew of Percy Richard Oliver Trench,son of a younger brother of the 3rd
Baron Ashtown(the 6th Baron was his younger brother's son,the 7th
is his grandfather's younger brother's grandson),
31st July 1894-25th January 1917

**cousin once removed of
Wyndham Wentworth Knatchbull-Hugessen,3rd Baron Brabourne,
21st September 1885-11th March 1915

***brother of David Andrew Noel Stuart,by courtesy Viscount Stuart,eldest son
of the 7th Earl Castle Stewart,
7th October 1921-10th November 1942
and these brothers were nephews of
Andrew John Stuart,by courtesy Viscount Stuart,eldest son of the
6th Earl Castle Stewart,
27th December 1880-25th September 1915
and of
Hon. Robert Sheffield Stuart,second son of the 6th Earl Castle Stewart,
1st May 1886-2nd November 1914

****first cousin once removed of
Edwyn Cecil Leigh Hoskyns,only son of Sir Leigh Hoskyns,11th Baronet,
22nd September 1890-20th/21st October 1914

*****On Sir Edward's death the title passed to the grandson of their father's
younger brother,Gaspard Patrick Hunter Blair,grandfather of Sir Patrick
Hunter Blair,9th baronet,
21st September 1895-June 1941
(a stretch,would have been 111 when nephew died)

******(would have succeeded his brother had he lived ten more days...
the Nairne title went to their sister and the Lansdowne title to a cousin,
the son of
Lord Charles George Francis Mercer Nairne Petty-Fitzmaurice,
12th February 1874-30th October 1914

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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
jdunlop
2019-08-27 19:03:02 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
The oldest living hall of famer is TOMMY LASORDA, born 9/22/1927.
Who's the oldest All-Star?
Eddie Robinson, number 3 on the list, played in four All-Star games.
Louis Epstein
2019-08-30 04:23:30 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
The oldest living hall of famer is TOMMY LASORDA, born 9/22/1927.
Who's the oldest All-Star?
Eddie Robinson, number 3 on the list, played in four All-Star games.
But he wasn't Grambling's football coach...

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2019-08-28 11:43:23 UTC
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This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
The oldest living hall of famer is TOMMY LASORDA, born 9/22/1927.
(*) Val Helm - 8/26/2019 to present - 0 years, 1 day and counting
(*) Tom Jordan - 11/30/2018 to 8/26/2019 - 0 years, 270 days
Fred Caligiuri - 5/28/2018 to 11/30/2018 - 0 years, 186 days
Chuck Stevens - 11/13/2017 to 5/28/2018 - 0 years, 196 days
BOBBY DOERR - 11/4/2016 to 11/13/2017 - 1 year, 9 days
Eddie Carnett - 4/4/2016 to 11/4/2016 - 0 years, 214 days
Mike Sandlock - 4/23/2014 to 4/4/2016 - 1 year, 347 days
Connie Marrero - 2/8/2011 to 4/23/2014 - 3 years, 74 days
(*) Tony Malinosky - 1/22/2009 to 2/8/2011 - 2 years, 17 days
Bill Werber - 7/22/2007 to 1/22/2009 - 1 year, 184 days
Rollie Stiles - 7/15/2006 to 7/22/2007 - 1 year, 7 days
(*) Howdy Groskloss - 7/30/2005 to 7/15/2006 - 350 days
(*) Ray Cunningham - 1/2/2004 to 7/30/2005 - 1 year, 209 days
(*) Paul Hopkins - 9/25/2002 to 1/2/2004 - 1 year, 99 days
Ray Hayworth - 6/27/2002 to 9/25/2002 - 90 days
(*) Ralph Erickson - 4/3/2002 to 6/27/2002 - 85 days
(*) Karl Swanson - 3/31/1999 to 4/3/2002 - 3 years, 3 days
(*) Ike Kahdot - 9/17/1998 to 3/31/1999 - 195 days
Red Hoff - 12/15/1990 to 9/17/1998 - 7 years, 276 days
David Carson
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"Oh, yeah ... It's the main part."
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There are also no former NHL players alive who were born in 1923. The two oldest are Jim Conacher (born May 5, 1921) and Steve Wojciechowski (born Dec 25 1922). The third oldest living is Howie Meeker (born November 4, 1924).

As far as basketball goes, the oldest living NBA player is Whitey Von Nieda (born June 19, 1922). If you count the NBL as the NBA, which most historians do but the NBA refuses, Larry Kenney is the oldest (born June 13, 1920.) After those two gentlemen, you have a group of six players born in 1923 that survive.
Rick B.
2019-08-28 11:50:24 UTC
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This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
Spellcheck on #1 and #5: should be Heim and Conatser
a***@gmail.com
2019-08-30 10:46:08 UTC
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Post by David Carson
This list has been updated to reflect the death of Tom Jordan, formerly at
position #1.
There are currently 9 living players who were born from 1920 to 1922 and 7
born in 1924, but no major leaguer who was born in 1923 is alive.
Players with a (*) had fewer than 200 at bats and 50 innings pitched.
1. (*) Val Helm, b. 11/4/1920
2. Wally Westlake, b. 11/8/1920
3. Eddie Robinson, b. 12/15/1920
4. (*) George Elder, b. 3/10/1921
5. Clint Conaster, b. 7/24/1921
6. Gil Coan, b. 5/18/1922
7. Eddie Basinski, b. 11/4/1922
8. (*) George Yankowski, b. 11/19/1922
9. (*) Neal Watlington, b. 12/25/1922
10. Tim Thompson, b. 3/1/1924
Spellcheck on #1 and #5: should be Heim and Conatser
However it is spelled, Conatser died last week, too.

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