Discussion:
Is porn spam dead?
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Terry del Fuego
2020-05-18 17:13:04 UTC
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I suddenly realized that while it's not uncommon for me to get
hundreds of garbage e-mails every day, I think it's been a long time,
perhaps YEARS, since I've gotten truly explicit smut.

Did some law actually *work* or am I just charmed?
Adam H. Kerman
2020-05-18 18:02:08 UTC
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Post by Terry del Fuego
I suddenly realized that while it's not uncommon for me to get
hundreds of garbage e-mails every day, I think it's been a long time,
perhaps YEARS, since I've gotten truly explicit smut.
Did some law actually *work* or am I just charmed?
Are you completely insane? You clicked on attachments to email to see if
they were pr0n?

I deliberately use an email client from the command line. I can just
read text, no graphics. If there's a need for the attachment, which I'm
expecting from someone I know, I download it and use another computer.
Otherwise the message got deleted without interacting with the
attachment.

I can't get a computer virus on the remote computer I use for email,
looking at email as text.
Kenny McCormack
2020-05-18 19:35:53 UTC
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In article <r9uij0$5k9$***@dont-email.me>, Adam H. Kerman <***@chinet.com> wrote:
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
I deliberately use an email client from the command line. I can just
read text, no graphics. If there's a need for the attachment, which I'm
expecting from someone I know, I download it and use another computer.
Otherwise the message got deleted without interacting with the
attachment.
Nobody cares how you do your email thing.
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Adam H. Kerman
2020-05-18 20:00:25 UTC
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Post by Kenny McCormack
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
I deliberately use an email client from the command line. I can just
read text, no graphics. If there's a need for the attachment, which I'm
expecting from someone I know, I download it and use another computer.
Otherwise the message got deleted without interacting with the
attachment.
Nobody cares how you do your email thing.
Why did you think that anyone would think you were other than an idiot
for ever having clicked on pr0n that was sent to you as an email
attachment by a spammer? I was simply pointing out a way to spare you
from that temptation to click on the attachment... by reading your email
message as text. You aren't obliged to change your dangerous behavior.

People like you, who would deliberately click on an attachment just to
see if it was pr0n, are beyond belief and deserve computer viruses.
Kenny McCormack
2020-05-18 20:38:07 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Kenny McCormack
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
I deliberately use an email client from the command line. I can just
read text, no graphics. If there's a need for the attachment, which I'm
expecting from someone I know, I download it and use another computer.
Otherwise the message got deleted without interacting with the
attachment.
Nobody cares how you do your email thing.
Why did you think that anyone would think you were other than an idiot
for ever having clicked on pr0n that was sent to you as an email
attachment by a spammer? I was simply pointing out a way to spare you
from that temptation to click on the attachment... by reading your email
message as text. You aren't obliged to change your dangerous behavior.
People like you, who would deliberately click on an attachment just to
see if it was pr0n, are beyond belief and deserve computer viruses.
Nobody cares about either yours or your Orange Hero's obvious senility.
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Terry del Fuego
2020-05-18 23:15:17 UTC
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Post by Kenny McCormack
Nobody cares about either yours or your Orange Hero's obvious senility.
My KF is tiny but that one has been in it ever since major truth
issues became apparent.

Based on your quote, I see that once again there's a *complete*
disconnect from what I actually wrote. I find it noteworthy that while
my spam box continues to fill to the brim, the headers are more along
the lines of "Meet lonely Russian women" or "I just saw your
[nonexistent] profile" rather than the more extreme and explicit junk
that used to come in. Also, "Jeanette" *really* wants to talk to me
lately. How attachments or intentionally clicking on anything at all
got into it is anyone's guess.

I'm old enough to remember when Microsoft Outlook automatically
downloaded all remote images, which means that I can remember sitting
at my desk in the office, deleting whatever work-related emails I'd
just dealt with and discovering that the next automatically-opened
message contained images that would now get someone instantly fired. I
don't miss those days in the slightest, I'm just surprised--in a good
way!--that they're apparently gone and was wondering if somehow I'm
just lucky. I never thought porn spammers would be the type to quietly
slink off, which is why I asked if some law had actually worked.

If it matters, it's on my mind at the moment because I'm waiting to
receive the license for some audio processing software and have been
paying more attention than usual to what gets filtered to spam out of
fear that I might accidentally delete it.
Kenny McCormack
2020-05-19 09:16:01 UTC
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Post by Terry del Fuego
Post by Kenny McCormack
Nobody cares about either yours or your Orange Hero's obvious senility.
My KF is tiny but that one has been in it ever since major truth
issues became apparent.
Yeah, Kerman used to post at least semi-literate stuff in the Rockford
Files group, long ago, but lately, he's just turned senile (and mean).

No doubt he's somebody's weird old uncle.
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Adam H. Kerman
2020-05-19 16:44:37 UTC
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Post by Kenny McCormack
Post by Terry del Fuego
Post by Kenny McCormack
Nobody cares about either yours or your Orange Hero's obvious senility.
My KF is tiny but that one has been in it ever since major truth
issues became apparent.
Yeah, Kerman used to post at least semi-literate stuff in the Rockford
Files group, long ago, but lately, he's just turned senile (and mean).
No doubt he's somebody's weird old uncle.
You'll have to remind me what useful contribution you had made to that
or any newsgroup long ago, Kenny.
Terry del Fuego
2020-05-19 12:49:33 UTC
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On Mon, 18 May 2020 16:15:17 -0700, Terry del Fuego
Post by Terry del Fuego
If it matters, it's on my mind at the moment because I'm waiting to
receive the license for some audio processing software and have been
paying more attention than usual to what gets filtered to spam out of
fear that I might accidentally delete it.
And in fact the license came in during the night and was indeed
filtered to spam. Lesson: NEVER fully trust automated spam detection,
especially when $40 is on the line.
Adam H. Kerman
2020-05-19 17:17:07 UTC
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Post by Terry del Fuego
. . .
Based on your quote, I see that once again there's a *complete*
disconnect from what I actually wrote. I find it noteworthy that while
my spam box continues to fill to the brim, the headers are more along
the lines of "Meet lonely Russian women" or "I just saw your
[nonexistent] profile" rather than the more extreme and explicit junk
that used to come in. Also, "Jeanette" *really* wants to talk to me
lately. How attachments or intentionally clicking on anything at all
got into it is anyone's guess.
I'm old enough to remember when Microsoft Outlook automatically
downloaded all remote images, which means that I can remember sitting
at my desk in the office, deleting whatever work-related emails I'd
just dealt with and discovering that the next automatically-opened
message contained images that would now get someone instantly fired.
All integrated aspects of Microsoft Office were designed to route
attachments automatically to a program within Office to open them. Word
processing documents could have attachments too, but the main problem,
of course, was attachments to email. Other serious problems were
automatic execution of macros.

Also, Outlook started pushing everybody into use of HTML in email
instead of plain text.

I never ever used Outlook for business correspondence on my own machines.
Despite what foolish Kenny believes, there were extreme advantages to
handling this mess in the pre-Microsoft Office way.
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Adam H. Kerman
2020-05-19 17:23:04 UTC
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Post by Terry del Fuego
I suddenly realized that while it's not uncommon for me to get
hundreds of garbage e-mails every day, I think it's been a long time,
perhaps YEARS, since I've gotten truly explicit smut.
Did some law actually *work* or am I just charmed?
Are you completely insane? You clicked on attachments to email to see if
they were pr0n?
Now that I've read your subsequent followups, I didn't know you used
Microsoft Outlook as an email client, which deliberately routed
dangerous attachments to other Microsoft Office applications by default,
stuff that allowed macros and other dangerous code in attachments to be
executed. Even a word processing document could include a macro whose
code was meant to cause harm if executed.

Once people realized what Microsoft Office had done, they continued to
use it for business in lieu of changing to email clients that didn't do
such dangerous shit by default. So at some point, once people understood
what would happen and they didn't use other email clients and
non-Microsoft Office applications for critical business functions, yeah,
it was deliberate willful blindness.
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