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Riley Maple, son of actress/songstress Mare Winningham
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Jesse McCann
2005-08-14 23:30:12 UTC
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I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
Terry Ellsworth
2005-08-15 00:03:03 UTC
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Mare Winningham is a "songstress?" I thought she was just an actress?

Terry Ellsworth
Mordecai
2005-08-15 00:09:20 UTC
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Post by Terry Ellsworth
Mare Winningham is a "songstress?" I thought she was just an actress?
She has recorded a couple of folksy albums and did her own singing in
her Oscar-nominated performance in "Georgia." Condolences to her and her
family.
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M.
d***@comcast.net
2005-08-15 00:35:22 UTC
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I still think of Mare Winningham as one of the "brat pack"! I'm
surprised she had a 24 year old son!
n***@earthlink.net
2005-08-15 01:37:27 UTC
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I'm surprised too (I'm about 7 weeks older than Mare...how does that
make me feel)
Guessing my age is why I don't engage in some of that puerile name
calling that characterizes most of the political threads on this board.
mavman
2005-08-15 02:28:22 UTC
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She does seem too young to have a 24 year old. The son's last name was
Maple. If he was 24, he was born 2 years before Mare married Mr.
Maple, and he was born the same year she was divorced from her first
husband. Was her first husband his father, and then he took the second
husband's name later? Or did she and Mr. Maple have a baby the same
year she was still married to Mr. Martinez?

In any case, it's an unthinkable tragedy and my sympathies are with all
the Maples.
d***@comcast.net
2005-08-15 02:33:37 UTC
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Mare's first husband was actor A Martinez. His Imdb bio lists 3
children, but not Riley.
Laurie Mann
2005-08-15 09:45:40 UTC
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Right, but her bio does:

Children: Riley Maple (b. 1981), Paddy Maple, Jack Maple (b. 1985),
Calla Louise Maple (b. 1987).

She would have been 22 when she had Riley, which was certainly young to
have a first child in the '80s, but not impossible. I was 23 when I
had my daughter in 1980, and was one of the youngest mothers on my
maternity ward.

It also takes a little time to get divorced - she could have broken up
with her first husband and gotten pregnant before getting divorced from
him (I had no idea she'd been married at A. Martinez!).

Still haven't seen any official confirmation of this, and I hope that's
one of those Internet rumors. Ironically, she's currently in a play
where her character "carries the burden of a lost child..."


Laurie Mann
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Squib
2005-08-16 02:32:13 UTC
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Post by Laurie Mann
Children: Riley Maple (b. 1981), Paddy Maple, Jack Maple (b. 1985),
Calla Louise Maple (b. 1987).
She would have been 22 when she had Riley, which was certainly young to
have a first child in the '80s, but not impossible. I was 23 when I
had my daughter in 1980, and was one of the youngest mothers on my
maternity ward.
Loretta Lynn had her first baby when she was 14 years old. She was a
grandmother by the time she was 30. Compared to this, 22 seems almost
like middle aged. In fact most girls before the 20th century started having
kids very young. This was probably more out of necessity than anything
else, life expectancy was much lower, and I imagine that women's fertility
rates dropped dramatically as they approached their 30s.
Bill Schenley
2013-08-26 05:02:07 UTC
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Post by Squib
Loretta Lynn had her first baby when she was 14 years old.
She had her first baby at 16.

It made for a better tale in "Coal Miner's Daughter," but marriage records show that she was 15 when she was married to Doo ... Her daughter, Betty Sue, who was her oldest child, was born in 1948, 3-4 months after Lynn turned 16.
r***@gmail.com
2016-08-03 01:15:14 UTC
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Post by Squib
Post by Laurie Mann
Children: Riley Maple (b. 1981), Paddy Maple, Jack Maple (b. 1985),
Calla Louise Maple (b. 1987).
She would have been 22 when she had Riley, which was certainly young to
have a first child in the '80s, but not impossible. I was 23 when I
had my daughter in 1980, and was one of the youngest mothers on my
maternity ward.
Loretta Lynn had her first baby when she was 14 years old. She was a
grandmother by the time she was 30. Compared to this, 22 seems almost
like middle aged. In fact most girls before the 20th century started having
kids very young. This was probably more out of necessity than anything
else, life expectancy was much lower, and I imagine that women's fertility
rates dropped dramatically as they approached their 30s.
Your info about Loretta Lynn was wrong.
Kenny McCormack
2016-08-03 01:48:37 UTC
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Post by Squib
Loretta Lynn had her first baby when she was 14 years old. She was a
grandmother by the time she was 30. Compared to this, 22 seems almost
like middle aged. In fact most girls before the 20th century started having
kids very young. This was probably more out of necessity than anything
else, life expectancy was much lower, and I imagine that women's fertility
rates dropped dramatically as they approached their 30s.
Your info about Loretta Lynn was wrong.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loretta_Lynn#Children_and_grandchildren)
the correct numbers are 16 & 34.

So, previous poster was wrong - but not by *that* much (only 4).
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Squib
2005-08-16 01:28:55 UTC
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I still think of Mare Winningham as one of the "brat pack"! I'm
surprised she had a 24 year old son!
Both Winningham and Kevin Spacey went to high school together. So
she would be old enough to have a kid that age. Actually even in the
1980s she would have been a little too old to be part of the "brat pack",
of Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Robert
Downey Jr., Mary Stuart Masterson, etc.
m***@att.net
2013-08-25 14:01:23 UTC
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I still think of Mare Winningham as one of the "brat pack"! I'm
surprised she had a 24 year old son!
I think that she was actually pregnant when the filmed St. Elmo's Fire
LadyMusicFan
2005-08-16 21:11:44 UTC
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Post by Terry Ellsworth
Mare Winningham is a "songstress?" I thought she was just an actress?
Mare considers herself a "singer who acts".

http://www.marewinningham.com/bio.html
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2013-07-22 02:29:40 UTC
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Post by Terry Ellsworth
Mare Winningham is a "songstress?" I thought she was just an actress?
Terry Ellsworth
I saw her sing in San Jose. She has a very good voice.
m***@gmail.com
2013-07-22 16:59:05 UTC
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Thanks for wasting our time by bringing up an 8 year old obit.
Brigid Nelson
2013-07-22 17:02:50 UTC
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Post by Terry Ellsworth
Mare Winningham is a "songstress?" I thought she was just an actress?
Terry Ellsworth
I saw her sing in San Jose. She has a very good voice.
I believe she was on the Gong Show with her guitar, back in the 70's.

brigid
LadyMusicFan
2005-08-16 21:12:47 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
Searched around online and see no official news about Riley's passing.

Anyone have a link to news story?
Jesse McCann
2005-08-16 23:40:48 UTC
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Searched around online and see no official news about Riley's passing.
Anyone have a link to news story? <<

You may not find one. I have second-hand knowledge. My daughter was a
good friend of Riley's and he has spent time at our house. I spent
Sunday consoling my daughter, and she is still very upset, of course.
One way to relieve the pressure on myself was to say something
publically about Riley's passing. The press might not pick it up.
d***@comcast.net
2005-08-17 00:01:06 UTC
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Seems strange his death wouldn't at least rate a mention in Variety...
~Mary
2005-08-18 18:19:33 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
Searched around online and see no official news about Riley's passing.
Anyone have a link to news story?
I couldn't find anything except this written in someone's personal
writings. http://www.7thsign.com/~linkaloo/?cat=10

I did find web pages with his name listed at the school he was attending
and some plays that he had been in. Try searching for "Riley Mapel".
That is the way it is spelled on these sites.
d***@gmail.com
2014-06-04 06:51:49 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
v***@gmail.com
2014-12-17 17:38:45 UTC
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You witches should be ashamed of yourselves, a man has died; his mother and father, heart broken and his siblings incredibly shocked, hurt, depressed, a sibling is gone. For you to sit and gossip about him, his mother makes you all incredibly evil, possibly jealous of her. I don't have to know this woman to feel her pain and anguish even today. The young man was her first son. I can't imagine life without my young, talented son. Heart broken, lost, blaming myself ...what could I have done to help my child? My prayers and sincere condolences in hearing about her loss. A fan~
m***@gmail.com
2015-05-16 23:51:15 UTC
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Vernett right on
e***@gmail.com
2016-07-05 15:57:17 UTC
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Vernett right on
Ill light this back up if anyone reads it....I still think about that guy every day....he was a very good friend....ill never see him ride his skateboard to my house...he will never surprise me by just showing up...we will never have a beer together....Vernett is right....this is about Riley...not about anything else.
t***@gmail.com
2017-08-25 22:29:11 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
t***@gmail.com
2017-08-25 22:29:31 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
t***@gmail.com
2017-08-25 22:30:16 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
t***@gmail.com
2017-08-25 22:31:32 UTC
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Post by Jesse McCann
I'm sad to report the death of Riley Maple, born in 1981, son of Mare
Winningham. He was her oldest son, studying acting at LACC's Acting
Academy, and showed promise. He was, however, a troubled soul, it
seems. He took his own life. RIP Riley.
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