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Fred Harold Hale 1890-2004
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Louis Epstein
2004-11-19 16:51:41 UTC
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Fred Harold Hale Sr.,born December 1st 1890 in New Sharon,Maine,
died at 1:20 AM on November 19th 2004 at his room in the Nottingham
care center in Jamesville,New York,according to email received from
his son overnight.

In April 1910,he and Flora Beth Mooers,daughter of Jabez S. Mooers,
were married by J.S. Mooers,Justice of the Peace,and that August their
daughter Muriel was born.She was followed by four other children,
Carolyn(1913-92) being a diehard Boston Red Sox fan in whose memory
her father was glad to cheer their recent World Series victory.The
only surviving children are the two youngest,sons Norman and Fred Jr.,
both in their 80s.

By career Mr. Hale was a railway postal clerk,government service that,
along with having small children,exempted him from service in World War I.
He had a longtime hobby of beekeeping.

He was known for shoveling leaves off his roof at age 107 and his
last driver's license expired when he was 108,earning him a Guinness
Book entry as world's oldest driver.Thereafter he moved to New York
state to be near son Fred Jr.

He had cataract operations on his eyes at age 109 and 110,and an
endoscopic staple-assisted diverticulotomy more recently,helping
his quality of life in his last years.At age 113 he still played
cards and read newspapers.

He broke the record for oldest person to live in the state of New
York by ten days,and oldest to have been born in Maine by a more
substantial margin.Since the death of Joan Riudavets of Spain in
March 2004 he had been the oldest documented man in the world.

He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Daddy Freddy
2004-11-20 01:58:58 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Fred Harold Hale Sr.,born December 1st 1890 in New Sharon,Maine,
died at 1:20 AM on November 19th 2004 at his room in the Nottingham
care center in Jamesville,New York,according to email received from
his son overnight.
In April 1910,he and Flora Beth Mooers,daughter of Jabez S. Mooers,
were married by J.S. Mooers,Justice of the Peace,and that August their
daughter Muriel was born.
Shotgun wedding! Apparently Fred was quite the horndog in 1909.
Post by Louis Epstein
She was followed by four other children,
Carolyn(1913-92) being a diehard Boston Red Sox fan in whose memory
her father was glad to cheer their recent World Series victory.The
only surviving children are the two youngest,sons Norman and Fred Jr.,
both in their 80s.
Can you imagine meeting a man in his 80s and he says "Hey, my Dad's coming over
to play cards!"???
Post by Louis Epstein
By career Mr. Hale was a railway postal clerk,government service that,
along with having small children,exempted him from service in World War I.
He had a longtime hobby of beekeeping.
He was known for shoveling leaves off his roof at age 107 and his
last driver's license expired when he was 108,earning him a Guinness
Book entry as world's oldest driver.Thereafter he moved to New York
state to be near son Fred Jr.
He had cataract operations on his eyes at age 109 and 110,and an
endoscopic staple-assisted diverticulotomy more recently,helping
his quality of life in his last years.At age 113 he still played
cards and read newspapers.
He broke the record for oldest person to live in the state of New
York by ten days,and oldest to have been born in Maine by a more
substantial margin.Since the death of Joan Riudavets of Spain in
March 2004 he had been the oldest documented man in the world.
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Did anyone ever do a story on him for TV or a documentary that you know of?
Sounds like it would be very interesting.
Hal Horn
2004-11-20 02:54:20 UTC
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Just a month ago there was an AP article about Mr. Hale's joy at seeing a
Red Sox World Series victory. Mr. Hale was a lifelong Red Sox fan.

Thank goodness he got to see them win before he left. R.I.P.

HCH
Post by Daddy Freddy
Post by Louis Epstein
Fred Harold Hale Sr.,born December 1st 1890 in New Sharon,Maine,
died at 1:20 AM on November 19th 2004 at his room in the Nottingham
care center in Jamesville,New York,according to email received from
his son overnight.
In April 1910,he and Flora Beth Mooers,daughter of Jabez S. Mooers,
were married by J.S. Mooers,Justice of the Peace,and that August their
daughter Muriel was born.
Shotgun wedding! Apparently Fred was quite the horndog in 1909.
Post by Louis Epstein
She was followed by four other children,
Carolyn(1913-92) being a diehard Boston Red Sox fan in whose memory
her father was glad to cheer their recent World Series victory.The
only surviving children are the two youngest,sons Norman and Fred Jr.,
both in their 80s.
Can you imagine meeting a man in his 80s and he says "Hey, my Dad's coming over
to play cards!"???
Post by Louis Epstein
By career Mr. Hale was a railway postal clerk,government service that,
along with having small children,exempted him from service in World War I.
He had a longtime hobby of beekeeping.
He was known for shoveling leaves off his roof at age 107 and his
last driver's license expired when he was 108,earning him a Guinness
Book entry as world's oldest driver.Thereafter he moved to New York
state to be near son Fred Jr.
He had cataract operations on his eyes at age 109 and 110,and an
endoscopic staple-assisted diverticulotomy more recently,helping
his quality of life in his last years.At age 113 he still played
cards and read newspapers.
He broke the record for oldest person to live in the state of New
York by ten days,and oldest to have been born in Maine by a more
substantial margin.Since the death of Joan Riudavets of Spain in
March 2004 he had been the oldest documented man in the world.
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Did anyone ever do a story on him for TV or a documentary that you know of?
Sounds like it would be very interesting.
Louis Epstein
2004-11-21 05:45:01 UTC
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Post by Hal Horn
Just a month ago there was an AP article about Mr. Hale's joy at seeing a
Red Sox World Series victory. Mr. Hale was a lifelong Red Sox fan.
A more in-depth article from the Syracuse Post-Standard
available through GoogleNews indicates that it was his
wife who brought Red Sox fandom into the family,followed
by daughter Carolyn as mentioned below.
Post by Hal Horn
Thank goodness he got to see them win before he left. R.I.P.
HCH
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:51:41 -0600, Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Fred Harold Hale Sr.,born December 1st 1890 in New Sharon,Maine,
died at 1:20 AM on November 19th 2004 at his room in the Nottingham
care center in Jamesville,New York,according to email received from
his son overnight.
In April 1910,he and Flora Beth Mooers,daughter of Jabez S. Mooers,
were married by J.S. Mooers,Justice of the Peace,and that August their
daughter Muriel was born.
Shotgun wedding! Apparently Fred was quite the horndog in 1909.
Post by Louis Epstein
She was followed by four other children,
Carolyn(1913-92) being a diehard Boston Red Sox fan in whose memory
her father was glad to cheer their recent World Series victory.The
only surviving children are the two youngest,sons Norman and Fred Jr.,
both in their 80s.
Can you imagine meeting a man in his 80s and he says "Hey, my Dad's coming
over
to play cards!"???
Post by Louis Epstein
By career Mr. Hale was a railway postal clerk,government service that,
along with having small children,exempted him from service in World War
I.
Post by Louis Epstein
He had a longtime hobby of beekeeping.
He was known for shoveling leaves off his roof at age 107 and his
last driver's license expired when he was 108,earning him a Guinness
Book entry as world's oldest driver.Thereafter he moved to New York
state to be near son Fred Jr.
He had cataract operations on his eyes at age 109 and 110,and an
endoscopic staple-assisted diverticulotomy more recently,helping
his quality of life in his last years.At age 113 he still played
cards and read newspapers.
He broke the record for oldest person to live in the state of New
York by ten days,and oldest to have been born in Maine by a more
substantial margin.Since the death of Joan Riudavets of Spain in
March 2004 he had been the oldest documented man in the world.
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Did anyone ever do a story on him for TV or a documentary that you know of?
Sounds like it would be very interesting.
Nothing comprehensive,but he did get significant press in
the last couple of years.

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Brad Ferguson
2004-11-20 03:26:39 UTC
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Post by Daddy Freddy
Shotgun wedding! Apparently Fred was quite the horndog in 1909.
In 1909, many rural brides went to the altar pregnant. They had to
prove they were fertile before the guys would marry them. (Fertility
was never a male problem.)

Or Fred might have been a horndog.
Fritz Wuehler
2004-11-20 20:22:32 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Pneumonia: aka The Old Man's Friend
Louis Epstein
2004-11-21 05:39:55 UTC
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Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Pneumonia: aka The Old Man's Friend
Friends don't kill friends!

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Fritz Wuehler
2004-11-23 05:38:14 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Pneumonia: aka The Old Man's Friend
Friends don't kill friends!
Sometimes Death is a friend .. unless one hopes to suffer as
long as possible.
Louis Epstein
2004-11-24 22:20:03 UTC
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Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Pneumonia: aka The Old Man's Friend
Friends don't kill friends!
Sometimes Death is a friend .. unless one hopes to suffer as
long as possible.
I believe in avoiding death for as long as possible
no matter what the cost.To die represent the permanent
triumph of one's suffering,not an escape from it.
You can't win a battle that you don't survive!

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Sanford Manley
2004-11-24 22:55:52 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Fritz Wuehler
Post by Louis Epstein
He had recently been hospitalized for pneumonia and "other problems"
and had returned to the care center shortly before his death.
Pneumonia: aka The Old Man's Friend
Friends don't kill friends!
Sometimes Death is a friend .. unless one hopes to suffer as
long as possible.
I believe in avoiding death for as long as possible
no matter what the cost.To die represent the permanent
triumph of one's suffering,not an escape from it.
You can't win a battle that you don't survive!
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Do you want them thrown into the blender or do you
want a fork?
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