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Don Rickles dead at 90
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Louis Epstein
2017-04-06 18:17:23 UTC
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Just hitting the headlines.Variety,Daily News,Hollywood Reporter.

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c***@aol.com
2017-04-06 18:46:31 UTC
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Damn he was funny.
J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-06 21:18:24 UTC
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Damn he was funny.
He had not lost his edge when I saw him about four years ago. He did
a good deal of the show sitting on a chair, and at one point
apologized to the audience for that, saying it was his very first
stage appearance in something like 60 years in show business where he
wasn't able to stand for the whole show. He said he'd had some kind
of surgery and didn't want to cancel and disappoint people, but he was
apologetic about the sitting. And when he lit into volunteers from
the audience, holy crap. Nothing was off the table. No taboo. He
made a joke about *lynchings*. And it got a huge laugh.

No one else got away with the stuff he did. And probably a big part
of that was that he was so personable in real life that everyone in
show business just loved him.

Also a former Navy man, something of which he was very proud and which
he played up in his stage show.

RIP
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Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest
2017-04-06 23:05:24 UTC
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He had not lost his edge when I saw him about four years ago.
Four years ago? Ever listen to his old stuff? Not funny. At all.

I guess our tastes have changed. It's no longer funny to make fun of other people. My tastes grew up.

Anyway, ninety years putting people down is a pretty god run.

Here is an album from 1968, does anyone think this funny?

c***@aol.com
2017-04-07 00:09:26 UTC
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It figures the asswipe dyke would be humorless. Surprise.

"Obama is a friend of mine, had him to the house the other night, but the mop broke."

He killed it all the time.
J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-07 15:40:28 UTC
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He had not lost his edge when I saw him about four years ago.
Four years ago? Ever listen to his old stuff? Not funny. At all.
Some of his old stuff comes across as stale and lame. Some is still
hilarious. Part of the reason for that is that he was a "shock"
humorist -- part of the laugh reflex is triggered by the sheer
outrageousness of what he'd say. Standards for "outrageousness" have
evolved drastically since Rickles' early career.
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Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest
2017-04-07 16:42:06 UTC
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He had not lost his edge when I saw him about four years ago.
Four years ago? Ever listen to his old stuff? Not funny. At all.
Some of his old stuff comes across as stale and lame. Some is still
hilarious. Part of the reason for that is that he was a "shock"
humorist -- part of the laugh reflex is triggered by the sheer
outrageousness of what he'd say. Standards for "outrageousness" have
evolved drastically since Rickles' early career.
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Sorry, but his humor is "punching down". I find Rodney Dangerfield of the time to be funny. George Carlin, funny. Phyllis Diller, Professor Irwin Corey, Milton Berle, Jack Benny, old timey, maybe stale, but funny. Jokes about those "negroes" picking cotton- not funny.
c***@aol.com
2017-04-07 20:29:12 UTC
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You wouldn't know humor if it was dressed up as a vibrator and shoved up your cunt. Punched down? You're clueless. He took on the rich, the powerful, the famous.
David Carson
2017-04-08 10:46:45 UTC
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Jokes about those "negroes" picking cotton- not funny.
Yet an actual occurrence of someone getting killed with a gun makes you
chuckle and snort so much you have to tell us about it. You're the last
person here who ought to be looking down his nose at what makes others
laugh.
Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest
2017-04-08 17:59:42 UTC
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Yep! Yesterday I read an article where an NRA official giving a gun safety demonstration shot his foot. I laughed and laughed and then I stopped, but then again I laughed some more. Karma, she's so funny.

I used to be a first responder at one of the most crime ridden cities in the USA. We came across some ghastly deaths and injuries. Some we pretended not to cry, but others we laughed and laughed. Some would look at others strangely, so we'd laugh some more.

Gallows humor has the social effect of strengthening the morale of the oppressed and undermines the morale of the oppressors.[5][6] According to Wylie Sypher, "to be able to laugh at evil and error means we have surmounted them."[7

Remove the stick from your ads and read the Wiki article on gallows humor.
Sarah Ehrett
2017-04-08 21:01:13 UTC
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Yep! Yesterday I read an article where an NRA official giving a gun safety demonstration shot his foot.
Wrong. Not an NRA official.

" An employee was participating in firearms training at the range. As
he holstered his pistol, the firearm was accidentally discharged. "
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I laughed and laughed and then I stopped, but then again I laughed some more. Karma, she's so funny.
So you poked your eye with a spoon again?
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I used to be a first responder at one of the most crime ridden cities in the USA.
LOL Taxi drivers are not first responders just as you were never
"employed by a military contractor for the US Government."
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We came across some ghastly deaths and injuries. Some we pretended not to cry, but others we laughed and laughed. Some would look at others strangely, so we'd laugh some more.
Peering through the metal bars on your door can be so entertaining ...
We already know you live in a shithole.
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Gallows humor has the social effect of strengthening the morale of the oppressed and undermines the morale of the oppressors.[5][6]
Poor oppressed SmELLI.
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According to Wylie Sypher, "to be able to laugh at evil and error means we have surmounted them."[7
Remove the stick from your ads and read the Wiki article on gallows humor.
Why bother with Wiki articles when we have you writing doozies about
sticks in ads?

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David Carson
2017-04-10 01:39:19 UTC
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Yep! Yesterday I read an article where an NRA official giving a gun safety demonstration shot his foot. I laughed and laughed and then I stopped, but then again I laughed some more. Karma, she's so funny.
[snip]
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Remove the stick from your ads and read the Wiki article on gallows humor.
I don't consult Wikipedia for moral guidance, but since you do, you ought
to read its article on karma. It might make you do a little less gloating
over other people's troubles.
c***@aol.com
2017-04-10 02:27:12 UTC
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What does DJT have to do with this subject? Nothing. Just goes to prove that marcass relates everything to politics.
J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-09 14:13:21 UTC
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Sorry, but his humor is "punching down".
That is the dumbest thing you've written in some time, high bar though
that is. Congratulations, of a sort, are in order.
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c***@aol.com
2017-04-09 20:30:19 UTC
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Yeah, making fun of presidents and movie stars is "punching down."
J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-09 21:15:10 UTC
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Yeah, making fun of presidents and movie stars is "punching down."
a) Yes, obviously that.

b) Certainly, he insulted volunteers during his act. And there was no
shortage of volunteers. Practically everyone the man met *begged*
him to insult them. If I'd ever met him socially, I might have
managed to forego asking, just because I'd want to be "cool" about
it ... but if Don Rickles had ever insulted me, I would NEVER SHUT
UP ABOUT IT.

"Hey, J.D. would you hand me that--"

"Did I ever tell you about the time I was insulted by Don Rickles?"

"<*groan*> Yes. Twice today so far."

"Punching down." That's what Michael Moore and Sarah Silverman do.
Don Rickles wasn't "punching" at all.
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c***@aol.com
2017-04-09 21:24:24 UTC
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Spot on Mr Baldwin.
marcus
2017-04-10 00:35:06 UTC
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"Punching down." That's what Michael Moore and Sarah Silverman do.
Don Rickles wasn't "punching" at all.
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J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-10 02:29:29 UTC
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"Punching down." That's what Michael Moore and Sarah Silverman do.
Don Rickles wasn't "punching" at all.
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And DJT doesn't???
The Non Sequitur Association called. They're revoking your license.

But if you want to talk about Trump, I guess it *was* pretty foul when
he called all those working-class people "deplorable" just because
their lives and perspectives are different from his privileged
existence. Oh, wait.
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Kenny McCormack
2017-04-10 10:52:21 UTC
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"Punching down." That's what Michael Moore and Sarah Silverman do.
Don Rickles wasn't "punching" at all.
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And DJT doesn't???
The Non Sequitur Association called. They're revoking your license.
But if you want to talk about Trump, I guess it *was* pretty foul when
he called all those working-class people "deplorable" just because
their lives and perspectives are different from his privileged
existence. Oh, wait.
To be still defending Trump at this late date is kinda like, oh, wait,
yeah, here's the analogy I'm looking for, still defending the flat earth
hypothesis.

Seriously, it [*] had its day. But that day has passed.

(http://theflatearthsociety.org/home/)

[*] And by "it", I mean both the belief in a flat earth and belief in DJT.
Both have the same status.
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c***@aol.com
2017-04-10 11:10:41 UTC
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Only a complete moron would take Mr Baldwin's post as "defending Trump." Hello moron.
Jake D Jude
2017-04-10 12:47:51 UTC
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"Punching down." That's what Michael Moore and Sarah Silverman do.
Don Rickles wasn't "punching" at all.
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And DJT doesn't???
The Non Sequitur Association called. They're revoking your license.
But if you want to talk about Trump, I guess it *was* pretty foul when
he called all those working-class people "deplorable" just because
their lives and perspectives are different from his privileged
existence. Oh, wait.
To be still defending Trump at this late date is kinda like, oh, wait,
yeah, here's the analogy I'm looking for, still defending the flat earth
hypothesis.
Still attacking Trump after yet another magnificent week is like typical
libtard snowflake meltdowns. The children that never matured.

Grow up, pillock.
Pierre von Sanchez-Wong
2017-04-16 12:36:58 UTC
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He had not lost his edge when I saw him about four years ago.
Four years ago? Ever listen to his old stuff? Not funny. At all.
I guess our tastes have changed. It's no longer funny to make fun of other people. My tastes grew up.
Anyway, ninety years putting people down is a pretty god run.
Here is an album from 1968, does anyone think this funny?
http://youtu.be/TuyqHl89WjA
"My tastes grew up"
Why didn't they include you?

Michael OConnor
2017-04-06 22:02:26 UTC
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In Sinatra's later years, Don Rickles was probably his best friend. My favorite Don Rickles story was in the early 60's, not long after Rickles met Sinatra and Frank was on top of the world and Rickles was not quite that well known, when Rickles in-laws were visiting out in Vegas and went out to supper with Rickles and his wife. Rickles spotted Sinatra in the other end of the restaurant and left the table and walked over to Frank and asked him if he could come over to the table, that his wife's parents were big fans of his. Rickles went back to his table and a few minutes later Sinatra came over and said something to the extent of "Hiya Rickles. How are you doing?" Rickles lit into Sinatra, "Who the hell do you think you are? Bothering me and my family while we're in the middle of supper?" Sinatra was embarrassed for a moment before he realized the joke was on him. Don Rickles was about the only person who could get away with a joke like that on Sinatra.

One of the oddest friendships in show business history were Bob Newhart and Don Rickles; they were best friends for decades, but you would think they were polar opposites as Newhart was quiet and low-key and Rickles was loud and abrasive, but sometimes I guess opposites attract.

RIP Hockey Puck.
c***@aol.com
2017-04-06 22:53:35 UTC
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In real life Rickles was pretty quiet, not loud or abrasive at all.
Anglo Saxon
2017-04-06 22:53:07 UTC
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Post by Michael OConnor
In Sinatra's later years, Don Rickles was probably his best friend.
My favorite Don Rickles story was in the early 60's, not long after
Rickles met Sinatra and Frank was on top of the world and Rickles was
not quite that well known, when Rickles in-laws were visiting out in
Vegas and went out to supper with Rickles and his wife. Rickles spotted
Sinatra in the other end of the restaurant and left the table and walked
over to Frank and asked him if he could come over to the table, that his
wife's parents were big fans of his. Rickles went back to his table and
a few minutes later Sinatra came over and said something to the extent
of "Hiya Rickles. How are you doing?" Rickles lit into Sinatra, "Who
the hell do you think you are? Bothering me and my family while we're
in the middle of supper?" Sinatra was embarrassed for a moment before
he realized the joke was on him. Don Rickles was about the only person
who could get away with a joke like that on Sinatra.
Post by Michael OConnor
One of the oddest friendships in show business history were Bob
Newhart and Don Rickles; they were best friends for decades, but you
would think they were polar opposites as Newhart was quiet and low-key
and Rickles was loud and abrasive, but sometimes I guess opposites
attract.
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RIP Hockey Puck.
No kidding. Good story; I always wondered why he was BMOC because I
detested him 100% and flipped the channel instantly. I'm older now; in
Louis's comments he says Rickles had great charisma and I realize that
quality has to be felt in person. In my mind's eye, seeing Rickles pull
that stunt on Sinatra would've been a career death sentence. My
brother said he was in an academic receiving line one night and shook
Bill Clinton's hand, (during his presidency), and felt Clinton's
charisma like a body blow. And a friend who is long dead now met JFK
while he was campaigning for the presidency, in an Irish saloon in South
Boston. Same feeling. This friend said he despised him and his politics,
but the moment JFK entered the room it hit him hard just to look at the
man. So fascinating, that mysterious force. Every eye instantly stared
and stayed that way till he left. Buddha, Jesus, Hitler. Scary.
c***@aol.com
2017-04-07 00:10:32 UTC
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Clinton doesn't have that charisma anymore. Saw him not too long ago, he was like a shell of a person.
Anglo Saxon
2017-04-07 00:46:55 UTC
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Clinton doesn't have that charisma anymore. Saw him not too long ago,
he was like a shell of a person.

I've only seen him via tv/internet. Did you see him in person? I ask
only because of the physical presence thing. His heart disease is the
ruthless kind, from what I've read. I remember when he had his by-pass;
came out like a skeleton. It's got him but good.
c***@aol.com
2017-04-07 01:03:49 UTC
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In person. Made zero impact.
Anglo Saxon
2017-04-07 01:35:09 UTC
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In person. Made zero impact.
Appreciate the reply. "Life, huh?" Terms that used to sound like
cliches to me have turned out to be little bites of bittersweet truths
after all. How the mighty have fallen, etc... It doesn't make me feel
good to see it, but it has helped me appreciate the anonymous. Which is
why I'm lucky to be able to come here and read about the incredible
lives of people who are unknown at the public level. And public figures
who you guys have met or seen. Love it. It's fun. (That sounds a bit
weird, but alt.obit gets it.) LOL.
marcus
2017-04-07 15:38:24 UTC
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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Some folks didn't like Rickles. I LOVED HIM. They didn't like him because (and I think this was mostly done during the early part of his career) after insulting people in the audience, he would apologize at the end. The rationale was that if he was genuine, he shouldn't have to apologize for his act. For me, that didn't detract from his act.

His appearances on the Dean martin roasts, and with Carson and Letterman are hysterical. I often watch them on YouTube.

I will miss "Mr. Warmth".
That Derek
2017-04-07 16:00:10 UTC
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Does anybody know the precise name of the bullfighting-themed instrumental that usually accompanied Don Rickles whenever he made an entrance on Johnny Carson's "The Tonight Show"? The same melody is also briefly sampled in Tom Lehrer's song "In Old Mexico," which is likewise a paean to the sport of bullfighting.

How did this tune become associated with Mr. Rickles?.
J.D. Baldwin
2017-04-07 16:28:31 UTC
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Does anybody know the precise name of the bullfighting-themed
instrumental that usually accompanied Don Rickles whenever he made
an entrance on Johnny Carson's "The Tonight Show"? The same melody
is also briefly sampled in Tom Lehrer's song "In Old Mexico," which
is likewise a paean to the sport of bullfighting.
"La Macarena." Not to be confused with the ghastly-but-catchy hit of
the 1990s.
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How did this tune become associated with Mr. Rickles?.
I assume he chose it because it says "combative."
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2017-04-07 17:24:59 UTC
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Post by That Derek
Does anybody know the precise name of the bullfighting-themed
instrumental that usually accompanied Don Rickles whenever he made
an entrance on Johnny Carson's "The Tonight Show"? The same melody
is also briefly sampled in Tom Lehrer's song "In Old Mexico," which
is likewise a paean to the sport of bullfighting.
"La Macarena." Not to be confused with the ghastly-but-catchy hit of
the 1990s.
aka "La Virgen de la Macarena"

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