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Actor Peter Boyle Dies
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wazzzy
2006-12-13 16:39:36 UTC
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CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
cat
2006-12-13 16:50:06 UTC
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CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Bianca
2006-12-13 16:50:26 UTC
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CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Just announced on CNN.
Barbara L Sherrill
2006-12-13 17:49:18 UTC
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http://wcco.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_347112437.html
CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Just announced on CNN
Has he been sick? I just watched the Santa Clause 1 and 2. I loved him in
those and I loved him in Raymond. I am sadden by this news....

Barbara
Charlene
2006-12-13 17:58:19 UTC
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Has he been sick? I just watched the Santa Clause 1 and 2. I loved him in
those and I loved him in Raymond. I am sadden by this news....
This from WENN back in September:

Beloved US actor Peter Boyle is fighting reports he's close to death
after being diagnosed with a heart disease. The 70-year-old Young
Frankenstein star, who became a TV favorite in Everybody Loves Raymond,
has reportedly been denied a new heart because of his age and friends
fear for his life. But the actor is refuting the claims, made in
tabloid the National Enquirer, and his publicist Meghan Prophet insists
he pulled out of a charity benefit in July because he was battling the
flu and reports have made too much of his health. Boyle has suffered a
stroke and a mild heart attack in the past, and friends tell the
Enquirer they don't believe the actor is fully fit. A source tells the
tabloid, "The general consensus is that he's too old and in too poor of
health to qualify for a donor heart and even if they found a heart for
him, they are afraid he is too weak to undergo major open heart
surgery."

--

No mention of the multiple myeloma, though, which is a cancer of the
bone marrow.

wd42
wazzzy
2006-12-13 17:58:40 UTC
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Has he been sick? I just watched the Santa Clause 1 and 2. I loved him in
those and I loved him in Raymond. I am sadden by this news....
Barbara
He had been suffering from multiple myeloma and heart disease, said his
publicist, Jennifer Plante
BigSamMcClain
2006-12-13 18:09:42 UTC
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Post by wazzzy
http://wcco.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_347112437.html
CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Just announced on CNN
Has he been sick? I just watched the Santa Clause 1 and 2. I loved him in
those and I loved him in Raymond. I am sadden by this news....
Barbara
Really sad...prepare a funeral at Our Lady of Peace.
cat
2006-12-13 17:00:07 UTC
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Post by wazzzy
CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Now it's popping up. Dang. I was really hoping it was a mistake.
wazzzy
2006-12-13 17:06:06 UTC
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Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Now it's popping up. Dang. I was really hoping it was a mistake.
I remember when Barbara Bel Geddes died, SFGate.com was the only source
reporting it for almost 6 hours.
angela copus
2006-12-13 17:41:34 UTC
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Odd that it doesn't seem to be getting reported anywhere else as yet.
Now it's popping up. Dang. I was really hoping it was a mistake.
I remember when Barbara Bel Geddes died, SFGate.com was the only source
reporting it for almost 6 hours.
just saw in in Santa Clause 3, as tim allens father in law.


angela
Loki
2006-12-13 16:56:32 UTC
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Post by wazzzy
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CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Wow... Every once in a while there is one that just completely blind
sides me and leaves me sad and speechless. Bruno Kirby was one, this
is another.

Interesting thing about Peter Boyle. When he got married the best man
was his best friend, John Lennon
t***@iwvisp.com
2006-12-13 17:08:12 UTC
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Post by wazzzy
http://wcco.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_347112437.html
CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Wow... Every once in a while there is one that just completely blind
sides me and leaves me sad and speechless. Bruno Kirby was one, this
is another.
He's looked like the walking dead for the last 2 or 3 years after
losing a lot of weight. I meant to put him on my A O Dead Pool list
for '06 and forgot.

When I was a kid in Phila. in the '50's I used to wach his Dad who
hosted a kids show featuring the Our Gang movies.

Ray

Ray Arthur
Bill Schenley
2006-12-13 19:30:46 UTC
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Post by t***@iwvisp.com
He's looked like the walking dead for the last
2 or 3 years after losing a lot of weight. I meant
to put him on my A O Dead Pool listfor '06 and
forgot.
I forgot to put him on mine for the last *two* years ... He's looked
like death for the last *ten* years ...
Post by t***@iwvisp.com
When I was a kid in Phila. in the '50's I used to wach
his Dad who hosted a kids show featuring the Our Gang
movies.
Was his dad "Pete" or Petie?" I lived about 70 miles east of Philly
in the 50s and remember watching a kids show ... "Uncle Petie" or
something like that ...

"Joe" was the first time I saw Peter Boyle. Cool flick. Great
character ...

<Paraphrased>

"Forty percent of all liberals are queers,
and that's a fact. The Wallace people
took a poll."
King Daevid MacKenzie
2006-12-13 20:53:40 UTC
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Post by Bill Schenley
"Joe" was the first time I saw Peter Boyle. Cool flick. Great
character ...
<Paraphrased>
"Forty percent of all liberals are queers,
and that's a fact. The Wallace people
took a poll."
...Harlan Ellison, in addition to his being a television critic for the
Los Angeles Free Press in 1970, did an occasional film piece for the
paper as well. Perhaps the most interesting of the latter was his
critique of JOE in the 25 September 1970 issue. The film, and Peter
Boyle in particular, had such a devastating effect on Ellison that he
claimed, "it took my director friend, Max Katz, and his lady, Karen, to
help me up the aisle. I could not focus. I was trembling like a man with
malaria. There was a large potted tree on the sidewalk outside the
theater. I managed to get to it, and sat there, unable to communicate,
for twenty minutes. I was no good for two days after...[JOE] is a
viceral experience on a par with going black-beltine with Bruce Lee. JOE
will kick the shit out of you. It will set the blood slamming against
your cranial walls. It will make you as cold as Ultima Thule." Three
years later, upon the release of STEELYARD BLUES, Ellison attempted to
interview Boyle for The Staff (a successor of sorts to the L.A. Free
Press) but was still in such awe of the actor that he couldn't complete
the job to his own satisfaction, so he titled the resulting article "A
Sort of An Interview with Peter Boyle." Both pieces are highlights of
the collection HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING, which is well worth the trek
to the library to track down...

...probably my favourite movie-watching experience involving Boyle was
seeing him pop up in MEDIUM COOL as the gun range manager who is
interviewed by Robert Forster for a TV news report. I was only 9 years
old when that picture (originally branded with an X rating for purely
political reasons) was released, so I didn't get a chance to see it
until The Movie Channel ran it circa '79. By that time, of course, Boyle
had become a familiar face to me from TAXI DRIVER and HARDCORE, among
other things. It turned out that MEDIUM COOL was his second credited
movie role, and it was made almost simultaneously in Chicago with THE
MONITORS, a strange science fiction satire that I recall liking when I'd
seen it a spell before (Boyle had a small role in that one as well).
MEDIUM COOL is on DVD, THE MONITORS isn't even on VHS. I have to admit I
also liked Boyle's over-zealous Detective Ryan in TURK 182!, a picture
that I think has been maligned well past any limit it deserved to have
been...
--
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t***@iwvisp.com
2006-12-13 21:56:12 UTC
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Was his dad "Pete" or Petie?" I lived about 70 miles east of Philly
in the 50s and remember watching a kids show ... "Uncle Petie" or
something like that ...
IIRC it was Uncle Pete. wasn't the "Our Gang" dog named Pete or Petie?

Ray
Rick B.
2006-12-14 15:18:26 UTC
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Post by Bill Schenley
Was his dad "Pete" or Petie?" I lived about 70 miles east of Philly
in the 50s and remember watching a kids show ... "Uncle Petie" or
something like that ...
IIRC it was Uncle Pete.
"Uncle Pete," sometimes "Chuckwagon Pete."

A remembrance from Peter's niece (and Pete's grandaughter),
NBC Nightly News producer Clare Duffy:
http://dailynightly.msnbc.com/2006/12/remembering_unc.html

Oogie
2006-12-14 01:17:29 UTC
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He was a good friend of John Lennon. John was his best man .

Oogie
Post by Bill Schenley
Post by t***@iwvisp.com
He's looked like the walking dead for the last
2 or 3 years after losing a lot of weight. I meant
to put him on my A O Dead Pool listfor '06 and
forgot.
I forgot to put him on mine for the last *two* years ... He's looked
like death for the last *ten* years ...
Post by t***@iwvisp.com
When I was a kid in Phila. in the '50's I used to wach
his Dad who hosted a kids show featuring the Our Gang
movies.
Was his dad "Pete" or Petie?" I lived about 70 miles east of Philly
in the 50s and remember watching a kids show ... "Uncle Petie" or
something like that ...
"Joe" was the first time I saw Peter Boyle. Cool flick. Great
character ...
<Paraphrased>
"Forty percent of all liberals are queers,
and that's a fact. The Wallace people
took a poll."
Hyfler/Rosner
2006-12-13 22:12:20 UTC
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Post by t***@iwvisp.com
He's looked like the walking dead for the last 2 or 3
years after
losing a lot of weight. I meant to put him on my A O Dead
Pool list
for '06 and forgot.
When I was a kid in Phila. in the '50's I used to wach his
Dad who
hosted a kids show featuring the Our Gang movies.
Ray
Ray Arthur
Quite a week, Ray. Update later on this week's hot
deadpooler.
jfgross
2006-12-13 19:19:05 UTC
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Post by wazzzy
http://wcco.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_347112437.html
CBS News is reporting that actor Peter Boyle who played the crabby
father of Ray Romano on the CBS comedy "Everbody Loves Raymond," died
last night in New York.
Holy Crap! What a surprise!
Michael O'Connor
2006-12-13 23:06:40 UTC
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Very underrated actor, was equally good at comedy or drama. He was one
actor who I always thought should have been a much bigger star; he
could have had Gene Hackman's career with a little luck. I think Peter
Boyle would have been every bit as good as Hackman in the Poseidon
Adventure, French Connection, Hoosiers, Unforgiven, Superman etc.
Boyle and Hackman were very good friends in real life, and I've read
when they did the Hackman blind man cameo in Young Frankenstein that it
took countless takes because they would start bust out laughing, and if
you watch the scene you'll see a couple times Gene Hackman is on the
verge of losing it. I hope most people just don't think of his role on
the Raymond sitcom and forget his fine dramatic roles such as Hardcore
and Monster's Ball.
t***@iwvisp.com
2006-12-14 00:22:32 UTC
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Post by Michael O'Connor
Very underrated actor, was equally good at comedy or drama. He was one
actor who I always thought should have been a much bigger star; he
could have had Gene Hackman's career with a little luck. I think Peter
Boyle would have been every bit as good as Hackman in the Poseidon
Adventure, French Connection, Hoosiers, Unforgiven, Superman etc.
Boyle and Hackman were very good friends in real life, and I've read
when they did the Hackman blind man cameo in Young Frankenstein that it
took countless takes because they would start bust out laughing, and if
you watch the scene you'll see a couple times Gene Hackman is on the
verge of losing it. I hope most people just don't think of his role on
the Raymond sitcom and forget his fine dramatic roles such as Hardcore
and Monster's Ball.
I agree he was equally good in comedy and drama but I don't see him as
having the physical abilities to compare to Hackman's career.

Ray Arthur
Loki
2006-12-14 05:36:34 UTC
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Post by Michael O'Connor
Very underrated actor, was equally good at comedy or drama. He was one
actor who I always thought should have been a much bigger star; he
could have had Gene Hackman's career with a little luck. I think Peter
Boyle would have been every bit as good as Hackman in the Poseidon
Adventure, French Connection, Hoosiers, Unforgiven, Superman etc.
Boyle and Hackman were very good friends in real life, and I've read
when they did the Hackman blind man cameo in Young Frankenstein that it
took countless takes because they would start bust out laughing, and if
you watch the scene you'll see a couple times Gene Hackman is on the
verge of losing it. I hope most people just don't think of his role on
the Raymond sitcom and forget his fine dramatic roles such as Hardcore
and Monster's Ball.
I agree he was equally good in comedy and drama but I don't see him as
having the physical abilities to compare to Hackman's career.
Ray Arthur
He would be a notch below Hackman. Somewhere between John Goodman and
Robert Duval.
johnny b
2006-12-14 01:45:52 UTC
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Post by Michael O'Connor
Very underrated actor, was equally good at comedy or drama. He was one
actor who I always thought should have been a much bigger star; he
could have had Gene Hackman's career with a little luck. I think Peter
Boyle would have been every bit as good as Hackman in the Poseidon
Adventure, French Connection, Hoosiers, Unforgiven, Superman etc.
Boyle and Hackman were very good friends in real life, and I've read
when they did the Hackman blind man cameo in Young Frankenstein that it
took countless takes because they would start bust out laughing, and if
you watch the scene you'll see a couple times Gene Hackman is on the
verge of losing it. I hope most people just don't think of his role on
the Raymond sitcom and forget his fine dramatic roles such as Hardcore
and Monster's Ball.
if i'm correct, wasn't boyle originally offered hackman's role in
French Connection?
johnny b
2006-12-14 01:46:11 UTC
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Post by Michael O'Connor
Very underrated actor, was equally good at comedy or drama. He was one
actor who I always thought should have been a much bigger star; he
could have had Gene Hackman's career with a little luck. I think Peter
Boyle would have been every bit as good as Hackman in the Poseidon
Adventure, French Connection, Hoosiers, Unforgiven, Superman etc.
Boyle and Hackman were very good friends in real life, and I've read
when they did the Hackman blind man cameo in Young Frankenstein that it
took countless takes because they would start bust out laughing, and if
you watch the scene you'll see a couple times Gene Hackman is on the
verge of losing it. I hope most people just don't think of his role on
the Raymond sitcom and forget his fine dramatic roles such as Hardcore
and Monster's Ball.
if i'm correct, wasn't boyle originally offered hackman's role in
French Connection?
Michael O'Connor
2006-12-14 03:50:20 UTC
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Post by johnny b
if i'm correct, wasn't boyle originally offered hackman's role in
French Connection?
According to IMDB.com, you are correct; IMDB says the Popeye Doyle role
was first offered to Peter Boyle and James Caan, and both either passed
or couldn't do it. IMDB also says that Steve McQueen was offered the
role, but he turned it down because he didn't want to do another cop
film right after Bullitt; I love Steve McQueen but think he would not
have been right for the role. Jackie Gleason was considered for the
Popeye role at one point but it was apparently nixed by studio execs; I
think Gleason would have been an interesting choice to play Popeye.
King Daevid MacKenzie
2006-12-14 04:21:39 UTC
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Post by Michael O'Connor
Post by johnny b
if i'm correct, wasn't boyle originally offered hackman's role in
French Connection?
According to IMDB.com, you are correct; IMDB says the Popeye Doyle role
was first offered to Peter Boyle and James Caan, and both either passed
or couldn't do it.
...Boyle was deeply disturbed by attending a screening of JOE and
hearing Joe Curran's undiluted bigotry cheered by audients. He decided
at that point to turn down any additional roles that involved urban
violence; none of the films he made for the next three years even
suggested such from his characters, and only with CRAZY JOE (about
mobster Joe Gallo) in 1974 did Boyle finally agree again to play a
violent character...
--
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http://www.myspace.com/kingdaevid
heard Sundays 8:00 A.M. PST/PDT at
http://www.krfp.org/documents/listen_windowsmedia.asx
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HARLAN ELLISON
Brad Ferguson
2006-12-14 12:26:09 UTC
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Post by King Daevid MacKenzie
Post by Michael O'Connor
Post by johnny b
if i'm correct, wasn't boyle originally offered hackman's role in
French Connection?
According to IMDB.com, you are correct; IMDB says the Popeye Doyle role
was first offered to Peter Boyle and James Caan, and both either passed
or couldn't do it.
...Boyle was deeply disturbed by attending a screening of JOE and
hearing Joe Curran's undiluted bigotry cheered by audients. He decided
at that point to turn down any additional roles that involved urban
violence; none of the films he made for the next three years even
suggested such from his characters, and only with CRAZY JOE (about
mobster Joe Gallo) in 1974 did Boyle finally agree again to play a
violent character...
Despite all that, Boyle had agreed to do an early-'80s sequel to "Joe"
called "Citizen Joe." It never made it passed the planning stages, but
there's some poster artwork out there somewhere. ("Joe" was Susan
Sarandon's first film, too, IIRC.) "Joe" was the first thing I thought
of when the news came.

IIRC "Crazy Joe" (lotta Joes in this post, you betcha) was not a
straight bio of Gallo. They changed Gallo's last name, among other
details.
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