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ZapRatz
2008-08-24 12:58:13 UTC
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Insane Clown Posse fan dies

By Mark Fitton, The Southern
Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2008/08/10/front_page/25386016.txt

CAVE-IN-ROCK - A Juggalo, or fan of the Insane Clown Posse musical
group, died Friday evening at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a
four day-event in its second year at Cave-In-Rock.

Curt Brown, 33, of Holly, Mich., was pronounced dead at 7:19 p.m.
Friday, said Hardin County Coroner Roger Little.

Brown, 33, was with friends who left for a short time and returned to
find him dead in a tent, the coroner said.

Toxicology tests are being conducted, and it appears Brown's death may
be drug-related or a result of natural causes, Little said.

There was no sign of foul play, and there were indications of possible
drug use, the coroner said.

No other deaths at the event have been reported this year. The Hardin
County Sheriff's Department and the Illinois State Police have not yet
released numbers regarding arrests for this year's Gathering, which
runs through tonight.

The event drew about 7,000 attendees last year, and as many as 10,000
were said to be expected this year.

The Gathering poses financial and law enforcement challenges for
Hardin County, which has a population of less than 5,000.

Last year, Sheriff Tom Seiner gathered as much help as he could from
agencies including Illinois State Police and the U.S. Forest Service.
Seiner estimated the county spent about $10,000 to $12,000 policing
the area during the event.

The sheriff's department this year received a roughly $8,000 grant to
help offset its costs, and Seiner and state police commanders were
planning a large police presence similar to that of last year's.

Although arrests were made for dozens of traffic and drug-related
offenses in 2007, Seiner called the Juggalos generally well-behaved.
The one death that occurred last year was heat-related.

The Gathering, hosted by the band and its record label, Psychopathic
Records, includes performances by more than 100 bands, carnival rides
and wrestling.

The Insane Clown Posse is made up of Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler,
who come from the Delray neighborhood of southwest Detroit. They
perform as Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, respectively.

Their music is generally described as a hardcore variation of hip hop
called horrorcore.

The Insane Clown Posse's dedicated and international fan base, the
Juggalos, follow a mythology called the Dark Carnival derived from six
of the band's albums, and a subculture that includes face-painting and
a hardcore style of wrestling has emerged.

Open drug use, nudity and sex have been noted at the annual
Gatherings.

While last year's Gathering alarmed some in Southern Illinois,
merchants in the area said the fans presented few or no problems and
provided much-needed business.
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Charlene
2008-08-24 13:09:12 UTC
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Insane Clown Posse fan dies
By Mark Fitton, The Southern
Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDThttp://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2008/08/10/front_page/2538...
CAVE-IN-ROCK - A Juggalo, or fan of the Insane Clown Posse musical
group, died Friday evening at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a
four day-event in its second year at Cave-In-Rock.
Curt Brown, 33, of Holly, Mich., was pronounced dead at 7:19 p.m.
Friday, said Hardin County Coroner Roger Little.
Brown, 33, was with friends who left for a short time and returned to
find him dead in a tent, the coroner said.
Toxicology tests are being conducted, and it appears Brown's death may
be drug-related or a result of natural causes, Little said.
There was no sign of foul play, and there were indications of possible
drug use, the coroner said.
Maybe he suddenly realized he was a Juggalo and died of shame.

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ZapRatz
2008-08-24 13:30:13 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT), Charlene
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The Gathering, hosted by the band and its record label, Psychopathic
Records, includes performances by more than 100 bands, carnival rides
and wrestling.
The Insane Clown Posse is made up of Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler,
who come from the Delray neighborhood of southwest Detroit. They
perform as Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, respectively.
Their music is generally described as a hardcore variation of hip hop
called horrorcore.
The Insane Clown Posse's dedicated and international fan base, the
Juggalos, follow a mythology called the Dark Carnival derived from six
of the band's albums, and a subculture that includes face-painting and
a hardcore style of wrestling has emerged.
Maybe he suddenly realized he was a Juggalo and died of shame.
I think the person who should feel shame is the reporter for copying
portions of descriptive content from Wikipedia.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse

Insane Clown Posse

Insane Clown Posse is an American hip hop duo from Delray, Detroit.
The group comprises Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler, who perform under
the respective personas of the murderous, wicked clowns Violent J and
Shaggy 2 Dope. Insane Clown Posse performs a style of hardcore hip hop
known as horrorcore and is known for its dark, violent lyrics and
elaborate live performances. The duo has earned two platinum and three
gold albums, but have been criticized for the violent content and
perceived immature nature of their lyrics.

Originally known as Inner City Posse, Bruce and Utsler changed the
group's name when prompted by a vision in a dream resembling a
traveling carnival. The dream also inspired the introduction of
supernatural-and horror-themed lyrics. The duo founded the independent
record label Psychopathic Records with Alex Abbiss as manager, and
produced and starred in the feature film Big Money Hustlas. They
formed their own wrestling federation, Juggalo Championship Wrestling,
and later collaborated with many famous hip hop and rock musicians.

The themes of Insane Clown Posse and other acts on Psychopathic
Records center on the mythology of the Dark Carnival, which the duo
claim is a spiritual force that has revealed a series of stories known
as Joker's Cards. These stories each offer a specific lesson designed
to change the "evil ways" of listeners before "the end consumes us
all." Insane Clown Posse has a dedicated following, often referred to
by the group as Juggalos and Juggalettes.
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Kathi
2008-08-24 15:57:39 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:30:13 -0500, ZapRatz
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I think the person who should feel shame is the reporter for copying
portions of descriptive content from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse
Insane Clown Posse
Insane Clown Posse is an American hip hop duo from Delray, Detroit.
Sure, Delray is a poor and downtrodden 'hood... gives 'em more street
cred to the Juggalos than knowing the kids lived in Berkley, Oak Park,
and Ferndale (north of 8 Mile). Hence and however:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse
Joseph Bruce (Violent J) and Joseph Utsler (Shaggy 2 Dope) met in Oak
Park, a poor, crime-ridden suburb nine miles (fourteen km) north of
Detroit, Michigan.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Park,_Michigan
The population of Oak Park was once predominately Jewish and still has
a large number of Orthodox Jewish families.

The median income for a household in the city was $48,697, and the
median income for a family was $54,786. The per capita income for the
city was $21,677.


The southern boundary of Oak Park and Ferndale is the (in)famous 8
Mile Rd. A small chunk of land from 8 Mile Rd north one-half mile and
one mile wide between Ferndale and Oak Park is known as Royal Oak
Township. It uses Ferndale's ZIP code. Half of The Township attends
Ferndale Public Schools and the other half utilizes Oak Park's
schools. Because of this association, incidents and statistics from
The Township are often labeled as "Ferndale". Royal Oak Township (not
to be confused with the much more affluent 'burb of Royal Oak, three
miles north and a little east) *is* on the lower end of the affluence
scale:
http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?ct=royal+oak+township&st=mi&sid=1db622dddcab4dc182f9b975c8a6b066&pg=2&lid=1102010940&lsn=15&srcnt=570#Detail
http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?ct=royal+oak+township&st=mi&sid=1db622dddcab4dc182f9b975c8a6b066&pg=3&lid=1095008788&lsn=28&srcnt=570#Detail

Oak Park should not be known as "poor, crime-ridden." It's not The
Garden of Eden by any stretch of the imagination, but it's also not
akin to Delray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delray,_Detroit
http://metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=3331
http://www.detroitblog.org/?p=253


My oldest attended Ferndale High School with one of these Clown's
younger brothers.


Kathi
(grew up in Oak Park 1972-1983;
Ferndale High '81;
Ferndale resident since 1983)
Them's the facts.
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Jones Crusher
2008-08-24 18:11:45 UTC
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Insane Clown Posse fan dies
By Mark Fitton, The Southern
Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2008/08/10/front_page/25386016.txt
CAVE-IN-ROCK - A Juggalo, or fan of the Insane Clown Posse musical
group, died Friday evening at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a
four day-event in its second year at Cave-In-Rock.
Curt Brown, 33, of Holly, Mich., was pronounced dead at 7:19 p.m.
Friday, said Hardin County Coroner Roger Little.
Brown, 33, was with friends who left for a short time and returned to
find him dead in a tent, the coroner said.
Toxicology tests are being conducted, and it appears Brown's death may
be drug-related or a result of natural causes, Little said.
There was no sign of foul play, and there were indications of possible
drug use, the coroner said.
No other deaths at the event have been reported this year. The Hardin
County Sheriff's Department and the Illinois State Police have not yet
released numbers regarding arrests for this year's Gathering, which
runs through tonight.
The event drew about 7,000 attendees last year, and as many as 10,000
were said to be expected this year.
The Gathering poses financial and law enforcement challenges for
Hardin County, which has a population of less than 5,000.
Last year, Sheriff Tom Seiner gathered as much help as he could from
agencies including Illinois State Police and the U.S. Forest Service.
Seiner estimated the county spent about $10,000 to $12,000 policing
the area during the event.
The sheriff's department this year received a roughly $8,000 grant to
help offset its costs, and Seiner and state police commanders were
planning a large police presence similar to that of last year's.
Although arrests were made for dozens of traffic and drug-related
offenses in 2007, Seiner called the Juggalos generally well-behaved.
The one death that occurred last year was heat-related.
The Gathering, hosted by the band and its record label, Psychopathic
Records, includes performances by more than 100 bands, carnival rides
and wrestling.
The Insane Clown Posse is made up of Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler,
who come from the Delray neighborhood of southwest Detroit. They
perform as Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, respectively.
Their music is generally described as a hardcore variation of hip hop
called horrorcore.
The Insane Clown Posse's dedicated and international fan base, the
Juggalos, follow a mythology called the Dark Carnival derived from six
of the band's albums, and a subculture that includes face-painting and
a hardcore style of wrestling has emerged.
Open drug use, nudity and sex have been noted at the annual
Gatherings.
While last year's Gathering alarmed some in Southern Illinois,
merchants in the area said the fans presented few or no problems and
provided much-needed business.
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Insane Clown Posse fan dies
By Mark Fitton, The Southern
Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2008/08/10/front_page/25386016.txt
CAVE-IN-ROCK - A Juggalo, or fan of the Insane Clown Posse musical
group, died Friday evening at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a
four day-event in its second year at Cave-In-Rock.
Curt Brown, 33, of Holly, Mich., was pronounced dead at 7:19 p.m.
Friday, said Hardin County Coroner Roger Little.
Brown, 33, was with friends who left for a short time and returned to
find him dead in a tent, the coroner said.
Toxicology tests are being conducted, and it appears Brown's death may
be drug-related or a result of natural causes, Little said.
There was no sign of foul play, and there were indications of possible
drug use, the coroner said.
No other deaths at the event have been reported this year. The Hardin
County Sheriff's Department and the Illinois State Police have not yet
released numbers regarding arrests for this year's Gathering, which
runs through tonight.
The event drew about 7,000 attendees last year, and as many as 10,000
were said to be expected this year.
The Gathering poses financial and law enforcement challenges for
Hardin County, which has a population of less than 5,000.
Last year, Sheriff Tom Seiner gathered as much help as he could from
agencies including Illinois State Police and the U.S. Forest Service.
Seiner estimated the county spent about $10,000 to $12,000 policing
the area during the event.
The sheriff's department this year received a roughly $8,000 grant to
help offset its costs, and Seiner and state police commanders were
planning a large police presence similar to that of last year's.
Although arrests were made for dozens of traffic and drug-related
offenses in 2007, Seiner called the Juggalos generally well-behaved.
The one death that occurred last year was heat-related.
The Gathering, hosted by the band and its record label, Psychopathic
Records, includes performances by more than 100 bands, carnival rides
and wrestling.
The Insane Clown Posse is made up of Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler,
who come from the Delray neighborhood of southwest Detroit. They
perform as Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, respectively.
Their music is generally described as a hardcore variation of hip hop
called horrorcore.
The Insane Clown Posse's dedicated and international fan base, the
Juggalos, follow a mythology called the Dark Carnival derived from six
of the band's albums, and a subculture that includes face-painting and
a hardcore style of wrestling has emerged.
Open drug use, nudity and sex have been noted at the annual
Gatherings.
While last year's Gathering alarmed some in Southern Illinois,
merchants in the area said the fans presented few or no problems and
provided much-needed business.
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lacking an unexpected alternate outcome, 149 days
remaining in the imperial presidency of George W. Bush
I wanna go this year
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Insane Clown Posse fan dies
By Mark Fitton, The Southern
Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/2008/08/10/front_page/25386016.txt
CAVE-IN-ROCK - A Juggalo, or fan of the Insane Clown Posse musical
group, died Friday evening at the annual Gathering of the Juggalos, a
four day-event in its second year at Cave-In-Rock.
Curt Brown, 33, of Holly, Mich., was pronounced dead at 7:19 p.m.
Friday, said Hardin County Coroner Roger Little.
Brown, 33, was with friends who left for a short time and returned to
find him dead in a tent, the coroner said.
Toxicology tests are being conducted, and it appears Brown's death may
be drug-related or a result of natural causes, Little said.
There was no sign of foul play, and there were indications of possible
drug use, the coroner said.
No other deaths at the event have been reported this year. The Hardin
County Sheriff's Department and the Illinois State Police have not yet
released numbers regarding arrests for this year's Gathering, which
runs through tonight.
The event drew about 7,000 attendees last year, and as many as 10,000
were said to be expected this year.
The Gathering poses financial and law enforcement challenges for
Hardin County, which has a population of less than 5,000.
Last year, Sheriff Tom Seiner gathered as much help as he could from
agencies including Illinois State Police and the U.S. Forest Service.
Seiner estimated the county spent about $10,000 to $12,000 policing
the area during the event.
The sheriff's department this year received a roughly $8,000 grant to
help offset its costs, and Seiner and state police commanders were
planning a large police presence similar to that of last year's.
Although arrests were made for dozens of traffic and drug-related
offenses in 2007, Seiner called the Juggalos generally well-behaved.
The one death that occurred last year was heat-related.
The Gathering, hosted by the band and its record label, Psychopathic
Records, includes performances by more than 100 bands, carnival rides
and wrestling.
The Insane Clown Posse is made up of Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler,
who come from the Delray neighborhood of southwest Detroit. They
perform as Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, respectively.
Their music is generally described as a hardcore variation of hip hop
called horrorcore.
The Insane Clown Posse's dedicated and international fan base, the
Juggalos, follow a mythology called the Dark Carnival derived from six
of the band's albums, and a subculture that includes face-painting and
a hardcore style of wrestling has emerged.
Open drug use, nudity and sex have been noted at the annual
Gatherings.
While last year's Gathering alarmed some in Southern Illinois,
merchants in the area said the fans presented few or no problems and
provided much-needed business.
--
As of the day this message is being posted there are,
lacking an unexpected alternate outcome, 149 days
remaining in the imperial presidency of George W. Bush
I wanna go this year
The Gathering is July 26 to July 29 in Oklahoma City.

Be sure you scare the local folks.

http://www.juggalogathering.com/Home

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