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Norma McCorvey, "Roe" of Roe v. Wade, Dead at 69
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2017-02-18 21:06:24 UTC
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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69

She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.

By Andy Campbell

Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.

Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.

McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.

The Huffington Post's Jenavieve Hatch reports:

"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."

Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.

McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.

Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
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Jake D Jude
2017-02-18 22:12:54 UTC
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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69
She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.
By Andy Campbell
Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.
Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.
McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.
"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."
Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.
McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.
Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
3e4b037d17d286b23?yz1otiueny3prdx6r&
Godd. The bitch is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people.
More than Hitler and Stalin combined. Hope she is burning in hell with
all the other liberal scum down there.
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2017-02-18 22:19:37 UTC
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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69
She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.
By Andy Campbell
Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.
Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.
McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.
"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."
Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.
McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.
Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
3e4b037d17d286b23?yz1otiueny3prdx6r&
Godd. The bitch is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people.
More than Hitler and Stalin combined. Hope she is burning in hell with
all the other liberal scum down there.
Hope all your pregnancies are trouble free !
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2017-02-19 08:26:11 UTC
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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69
She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.
By Andy Campbell
Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.
Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.
McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.
"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."
Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.
McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.
Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
3e4b037d17d286b23?yz1otiueny3prdx6r&
Godd. The bitch is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people.
More than Hitler and Stalin combined. Hope she is burning in hell with
all the other liberal scum down there.
If there's a hell,it's filled with those who pretend abortion is murder.

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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69
She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.
By Andy Campbell
Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.
Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.
McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.
"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."
Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.
McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.
Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
3e4b037d17d286b23?yz1otiueny3prdx6r&
Godd. The bitch is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people.
More than Hitler and Stalin combined. Hope she is burning in hell with
all the other liberal scum down there.
If there's a hell,it's filled with those who pretend abortion is murder.
Another jew who thinks it is ok to murder babies but the holocaust is
bad. Fucking hypocrite. The abortionists killed more people than Hitler
and Stalin. But you are a policy and self hating jew. Your type disgust me.
Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest
2017-02-19 17:09:34 UTC
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Babies? What are their names?

Every time a woman says "No", she denies a baby a chance of life. Think about it.
Kenny McCormack
2017-02-19 17:18:34 UTC
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Babies? What are their names?
Every time a woman says "No", she denies a baby a chance of life. Think about it.
Yep. And every time a guy wanks off - same thing.
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2017-02-19 18:11:11 UTC
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Babies? What are their names?
Every time a woman says "No", she denies a baby a chance of life. Think about it.
Now you are employing logic, a concept the troll couldn't understand in a million years.
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Norma McCorvey, The Unnamed Plaintiff In Roe v. Wade, Dead At 69
She died of heart failure, said a journalist profiling the landmark
abortion decision.
By Andy Campbell
Norma McCorvey, the anonymous plaintiff in Roe v. Wade, the landmark
Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States,
died Saturday at an assisted-living facility in Katy, Texas. She was
69.
Journalist Joshua Prager, who was reportedly working on a book about
Roe v. Wade, confirmed that McCorvey died of heart failure, according
to The Washington Post.
McCorvey was dealing with abuse, addiction and an unwanted pregnancy
when she filed suit in 1970 as the anonymous plaintiff "Jane Roe" to
battle for her right to an abortion. She never actually had an abortion
the child she gave birth to in 1970 was adopted but she went on to
fight for reproductive rights until the decision was handed down in
1973.
"McCorvey became a pro-choice poster child, working for women's centers
in Texas and California in the '80s and early '90s. But in 1995,
Operation Rescue, a Christian group focused on making abortion illegal,
moved in next door to the Dallas abortion clinic where she worked.
According to The New York Times, McCorvey bonded with members of the
group over time, and was baptized in August of that year. Since then,
she has been an ardent pro-life activist, and in 1998 she fully
converted to Catholicism."
Since Roe v. Wade, some 50 million legal abortions have been performed
in the United States, though state and federal laws have imposed a
range of restrictions on abortions and other reproductive rights.
McCorvey remains a divisive American character who's been the subject
of three autobiographies, several films and some great reporting.
Prager's profile on her for Vanity Fair paints a picture of an
"accidental activist" who struggled through three pregnancies and
trouble at home before she took on the job of being one of the
country's most infamous plaintiffs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/norma-mccorvey-roe-v-wade_us_58a89b5
3e4b037d17d286b23?yz1otiueny3prdx6r&
Godd. The bitch is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people.
More than Hitler and Stalin combined. Hope she is burning in hell with
all the other liberal scum down there.
If there's a hell,it's filled with those who pretend abortion is murder.
Another jew who thinks it is ok to murder babies but the holocaust is
bad. Fucking hypocrite.
Nothing hypocritical about being able to tell what really IS murder
from what isn't.
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The abortionists killed more people than Hitler and Stalin.
That's like blaming people who eat walnuts,chestnuts,and almonds for mass
deforestation.

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2017-02-19 01:58:40 UTC
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"Vice-President Dan Quayle is so stupid, he thinks 'Roe versus Wade' are two alternative means of crossing the Potomac."

-- oft-repeated joke, 1992 [though I cannot remember its origination ... Murphy Brown? a still-extant (until the end of May) Johnny Carson? Letterman? someone like Tabitha Soren who allegedly thought that candidate Clinton was speaking about "the loneliest monk" when he was actually evoking Theolonious Monk?]

James Danforth Quayle, we hardly knew ye. President Trump almost makes the nation long for you ...
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a life may be conceived.

Pretty warped, isn't it.
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a life may be conceived.
Pretty warped, isn't it.
I'm sure our so-called Vice President would agree.

Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than
rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a life may be conceived.
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Pretty warped, isn't it.
I'm sure our so-called Vice President would agree.
Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
But you really need to keep in mind that these Republican weirdos (which is
to say, just about all Republicans) don't really believe this crap. I
doubt Pence, in actual reality, gives a fig about it. Rather, it is the
ruse that they use to keep the dunderheads in line. It's all show.

Not that this justifies anything. In fact, it makes it much worse.
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a >>life may be conceived.
Pretty warped, isn't it.
I'm sure our so-called Vice President would agree.
Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?

Really ????

fetus
[fe´tus] (L.) the developing young in the uterus, specifically the
unborn offspring in the postembryonic period, which in humans is from
the third month after fertilization until birth.
marcus
2017-02-19 21:20:13 UTC
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a >>life may be conceived.
Pretty warped, isn't it.
I'm sure our so-called Vice President would agree.
Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
No you're saying it, you complete and utter fraud, and King of Deflection.
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a >>life may be conceived.
Pretty warped, isn't it.
I'm sure our so-called Vice President would agree.
Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
No you're saying it,
No marcus. There is no other way to interpret what you wrote.
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Pence wanted to have funerals for fetuses.
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
First, the flamey part of this post:

Quite seriously, you cannot be as stupid as that comment implies, so you
must be trolling. Nobody is saying anything about what prospective parents
can choose to do on their own - if they want to have a full blown funeral,
with embalming fluid and a car parade through the town (wreaking havoc on
traffic flow, but hey, why not?), and can pay for it all, then sure, go for
it.

Rather, the point is that Pence did sign a bill, in the whacky insane US
state of Indiana, that requires "funerary services" (which is almost but
not quite the same thing as "a funeral") for the remains of either a
miscarriage or an abortion. That Pence is an insane whacko pro-lifer
nutcase is not in question by any sane person. That this bill was passed
by the Indiana state legislature and signed by the (then) governor is also
not in question. What is in question is, of course, as is always the case
with these sorts of things, exactly what the bill does mean and what it
actually does require. See below for a discussion of this.
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Really ????
Check out this URL:

http://www.snopes.com/pence-law-forcing-fetus-funerals/

Which, somewhat misleadingly, in my opinion, marks this as "mostly false".
Since Snopes is basically a sensible site, it is a bit disconcerting to see
them mark this as such. The following is what I gleaned by a quick scan of
the above URL'd article:

1) It *is* an exaggeration to say that the law requires funerals. It
would be absurd to require a full production, such as you might
give for your late Uncle Charlie, for a zygote/fetus. But it does
require "funerary services", which means cremation and/or burial,
and this does cost money.

2) The article claims that, contrary to what some people say, it does
not require the customer of the abortion or the victim of a
miscarriage to pay (directly) for said "funerary services", but it
does require them to be performed. Well, this is double-speak at
best, since in the case of an abortion, the hospital or clinic that
performed the abortion has to do it, and they obviously will
include that cost in the cost of the procedure. The article even
states that the effect of the bill will be to greatly increase the
cost of abortions, so it is hypocritical to maintain that the
customer isn't paying for it. And in the case, of a miscarriage,
where no third party is involved, well then, who else is going to
pay for it other than the victim of the miscarriage?

So, I would have marked this as "mostly true".
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You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
What would be warped is if the government somehow involved themselves and mandated importance to a group of cells.
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2017-02-20 20:48:51 UTC
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You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
What would be warped is if the government somehow involved themselves and
mandated importance to a group of cells.
Hey, I resent that! I'm just a group of cells.

So are you.

(Of course, I get your meaning - and I agree with it - but you need to be
careful, lest the dunderheads/Trump-voters intentionally mis-interpret you)
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The government doesn't mandate how my cluster of cells is treated. At least the Federal government.

The more local government doesn't care either, except as far as sanitation goes. I could be cremated quietly, without a funeral or any service. But for some reason their are some in the government who feel the mother should be on the hook for a funeral, burial, Elvis impersonator, New Orleans jazz band, and representative from an under-utilized religious corporation.

Don t believe in abortion? Don't have one. Or don't have sex with a woman who doesn't feel the same.

A woman is raped. Her beliefs don't allow her to terminate the pregnancy. The rapist could demand visitation rights, maybe shared custody, or even full custody. Don't believe in abortion, then don't make having a child the worse of choices.
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
What would be warped is if the government somehow involved themselves and mandated importance to a group of cells.
Sounds like you wish your parents had placed little importance on your
little group of cells, yeah?
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2017-02-21 12:55:51 UTC
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Post by Sarah Ehrett
You're saying parents are warped if they have a funeral for a
fetus/baby who was lost to miscarriage?
What would be warped is if the government somehow involved themselves and
mandated importance to a group of cells.
Sounds like you wish your parents had placed little importance on your
little group of cells, yeah?
Now I know you're trolling.

This is the oldest, lamest, most idiotic anti-abortion canard there is.

And yet you trotted it out as if it were new and clever.
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2017-02-19 19:33:51 UTC
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St. Thomas Aquinas taught that masturbation was a far more grievous sin
than rape reasoning that with rape, there is a chance that a life may be
conceived.
Pretty warped, isn't it.
Actually, it is quite in line with old (and we're not talking that many
centuries here) notions about the valuation of women. Rape was, until very
recent times, pretty much a financial matter - between the woman's father
and any prospective mates.

They say that a (new) car loses a substantial fraction of its value the
moment you drive it off the dealer's property. Seems like much the same
could be said of women.
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